Ford engines vs continental

I posted this on the Ford discussion column and didnt get much response,Does anyone know if Ford made engines for Continental or the other way around? Some of the Cont look like madel A engines, I would like to hear some input from some of the older guys, this has been a topic at work lately, thank you everyone.

Never heard that one before, I always thought Ford made all their own engines. A lot of the old flatheads look almost the same.

I think that Chrysler made some of the 6-cylinder flatheads for Ford. Not Continental, though.

What model Continental did you see that resembles a Ford Model A engine?

I don't recall ever seeing one that looked even close. I think the biggest four-cylinder flathead that Continental ever made was the 162 cubic inch F162 that has 3 7/16" bore by 4 3/8" stroke. The exahaust and intake manifolds are shaped very different from the Ford A engine.

The Ford A engine was 200 cubic inches with a 3 7/8" bore by 4 1/4" stroke.

Perhaps some of the Continentals that have the distributor sticking out of the head look like the Model A engines (that had the distributor sticking out of the head) to him?

Continental DID make some 4 cylinders like that, didn't they... I know the made 6-cylinder flatties with the distributor sticking out of the head.

They all work basically the same design. The flat head Chrysler industrials look very similar to Continentals. Dave

I don't think they really look the same,but some of the ford(or fergy) farm engines and the continential both have cwc casting marks on them showing they were cast at the same foundery.

This was on an old pull type baldwin combine that was sent for scrap years ago,thank you everyone for your replies.I just could not imagine Henry Ford using someone elses engines.

I'm far from an expert on old truck engines, but from data I've seen, Ford and Chrysler and Conitnental have little in common.

I think Ford made it's first flathead six-cylinder engine around 1940-41. 226 cubes with 3.3" bore X 4.4" stroke. First Ford 1906 Model N four-cylinder was 149 cubes with 3 3/4 bore X 3 3/8" stroke. The Model T four that followed was 177 cubes with 3 3/4" bore X 4" stroke. Model A (2nd A) that followed the T uses a 200 cube engine with 3 7/8" bore X 4 1/4" stroke. Made up to around 1935.
Ford had a V8 in 1939 with 3 1/16" bore x 3 3/4" stroke -which may be what the 9N engine was based on(cut in half)?

Chrysler's first four-cylinder was around 1918 with 212 cubes. 3 7/8" bore X 4 1/2" stroke. Chrysler's first six around 1930 at 208 cubes with 3 3/8" bore X 3 1/8" stroke. In 1932, they came out with a long-stroke six - with 190s cubes, 3 1/8" bore X 4 1/8" stroke. It later got stretched to 218 cubes. Early 40s Chrysler also had a 230 cube six with 3 1/4" bore X 4 5/8" stroke.

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Ford never used any other eng. however, the cont, herc, buda, waukesha, mopar, and all other flatheads looked similar, and all were good and popular. Most parts are avail. Old codgers like me remember them well.

Bob, Yes Conitnental made them like that. I have a 58 Cockshutt 540 with one.

Model A engines have that strange water pump with open shaft on forward to the fan (see pic below)- have never seen anything like that on any Continental engine (or any other flathead 4, for that matter).

I still don't understand how anybody thinks a Continental flathead looks anything like a Ford flathead. An F140s, F162s, etc. as used in many farm tractors don't even look close.

Ford has the open water-pump shaft, big coolant duct in the cylinder head, obvious curve on the OD for each cylinder shows on the outside of the block, etc. Yeah, they both have flat-heads and four cylinders - but that's where the similarity ends.

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