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Two problems. I think you will find the speed for your reverse too fast for a lot of conditions. You also lack live PTO which could be an issue if you need to stop the travel of the tractor yet maintain function (with out plugging) to the blower.
I am not aware of a front mount unit suitable for a tractor that size that would address the ground speed issue but it would not hurt to check with the New Holland dealer (where you would get new OEM parts). Last I saw John Deere and Woods offered at least three point hitch models. Agro-trend was a manufacturer that supplied the economy end of the market and I believe they are still around.
If it were me I would look for a more modern tractor that had more gear selection and live PTO. Unless you hit on a real bargain expect to shell out at least 3000 to 3500 dollars for an older domestically made tractor that fits. The alternative would be to put a three point blade on the 8N and cope (not my first choice). I don't like the loader on 8N's and you will probably need chains for sure and would be a good idea any way you go.
I am not aware of a front mount unit suitable for a tractor that size that would address the ground speed issue but it would not hurt to check with the New Holland dealer (where you would get new OEM parts). Last I saw John Deere and Woods offered at least three point hitch models. Agro-trend was a manufacturer that supplied the economy end of the market and I believe they are still around.
If it were me I would look for a more modern tractor that had more gear selection and live PTO. Unless you hit on a real bargain expect to shell out at least 3000 to 3500 dollars for an older domestically made tractor that fits. The alternative would be to put a three point blade on the 8N and cope (not my first choice). I don't like the loader on 8N's and you will probably need chains for sure and would be a good idea any way you go.
Allan in NE
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It would have to be a tiny, tiny snowblower.
Those things demand one heck of a lot of snort.
Allan
Those things demand one heck of a lot of snort.
Allan
Anonymous-0
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I agree with NY986.
One option for the 8N would be a thrower with its own engine. Then you could throttle the tractor down to get the slow ground speed and also not have to deal with the lack of LPTO.
I don't know how much snow you need to clear, but I can move more snow faster and more effectively with a snow thrower on a hydrostat Cub Cadet than with a larger tractor with bucket or blade.
K-Mo
One option for the 8N would be a thrower with its own engine. Then you could throttle the tractor down to get the slow ground speed and also not have to deal with the lack of LPTO.
I don't know how much snow you need to clear, but I can move more snow faster and more effectively with a snow thrower on a hydrostat Cub Cadet than with a larger tractor with bucket or blade.
K-Mo
Anonymous-0
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I agree that an 8N would be a poor candidate for a snowblower. A blade would be a better choice. Dave
A buddy and I looked into building a mount and power system back in the 1990's before the compacts got to be dominant. Talked to a few dealers to think what an acceptable price to a customer would be and we could not come close even with our cost so that business never got off the ground. Like the dealers said and I found this out in the parts business that a lot of people will spend all kinds of money to paint a tractor and buy a fancy truck and trailer to move it but are the biggest cheapskates going when it comes to attachments.
Truth be told when people get to the point the OP is at they usually go out and find a compact from the late 1980's or early 1990's like a Deere 850 with implements that can be bought in the 5 to 6 grand range and sometimes get a 4 wheel drive unit if they are in the right place at the right time. A lot of them are pretty effective with good tires and chains though. Obviously a bad time of year to be finding a bargain.
Truth be told when people get to the point the OP is at they usually go out and find a compact from the late 1980's or early 1990's like a Deere 850 with implements that can be bought in the 5 to 6 grand range and sometimes get a 4 wheel drive unit if they are in the right place at the right time. A lot of them are pretty effective with good tires and chains though. Obviously a bad time of year to be finding a bargain.
We did look at a front drive system off the existing tractor engine but decided that most likely the front crank, pulley, and front crank bearing were not strong enough to channel the full power of the engine through. An engineer I knew recommended if went ahead to test that it needed to be done over 2 to 3 years with at least ten different subject tractors in weather conditions similar if not actually blowing snow to have some degree of knowing the strength of engine and system. Would have been some investment in a system that in the end most likely would not have a patent to protect it. Oh well. That would have been the only cost effective system to sell if it had worked.
gene bender
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The 8N is not very good for blowing snow over like 4in ground speed too fast and then HP. Get a blade
Fordfarmer
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The others are right... lack of power, lack of SLOW
reverse, and lack of live PTO and hydraulics all
make an 8N impractical for snowblower use.
HOWEVER... there was a snowblower made for the Ford
N's and similar tractors. It was made by Irskine
(sp?), in Minnesota. They show up in classifieds and
on Craigslist or ebay occasionally. V-shaped, PTO-
powered, fits on the 3-point, and you travel
forwards when using it.
reverse, and lack of live PTO and hydraulics all
make an 8N impractical for snowblower use.
HOWEVER... there was a snowblower made for the Ford
N's and similar tractors. It was made by Irskine
(sp?), in Minnesota. They show up in classifieds and
on Craigslist or ebay occasionally. V-shaped, PTO-
powered, fits on the 3-point, and you travel
forwards when using it.
When I was a kid 40 years ago near Kitchener, ontario, one of our neighbours bought an 8N and one of those V-shaped snowblowers. It was such a useless combination that whenever there was more than 2 inches of snow, he used to shovel the snow into the running blower so he wouldn't plug it. The best use I have ever seen for those V blowers is to take the fan out and use it for a manure scraper. However, I have 22 year old AgroTrend blower and it works fine with a tractor with LPTO and a low reverse.
You need to come up here north to southern MN, you could have _all_ the play time you want. 
Doesn't even have to snow, the wind can make 3 foot drifts over nite. Mr Sun is so low, he doesn't help much until about March.
With a snow blower, you can get by with 2 out of these 3 - all 3 is great of course:
Ample hp.
Live pto.
Slow reverse gear.
The N series is a niffty little tractor for it's age, was worlds ahead of anything else for the price 60 years ago, but it doesn't have _any_ of the above 3 for snowblowing.
Same rules (slow forward speed instead of reverse of course...) applies to baling hay.
--->Paul
Doesn't even have to snow, the wind can make 3 foot drifts over nite. Mr Sun is so low, he doesn't help much until about March.With a snow blower, you can get by with 2 out of these 3 - all 3 is great of course:
Ample hp.
Live pto.
Slow reverse gear.
The N series is a niffty little tractor for it's age, was worlds ahead of anything else for the price 60 years ago, but it doesn't have _any_ of the above 3 for snowblowing.
Same rules (slow forward speed instead of reverse of course...) applies to baling hay.
--->Paul
buickanddeere
Well-known Member
Three point hitch pto blower on a tractor with a
too fast reverse gear, not enough power, without
live pto and no live hydraulics. It's just an
example of frustration.
Keep the N for running to the mailbox and find a
Massey 135 or something decent for doing work.
too fast reverse gear, not enough power, without
live pto and no live hydraulics. It's just an
example of frustration.
Keep the N for running to the mailbox and find a
Massey 135 or something decent for doing work.
Anonymous-0
Well-known Member
I put a 50 inch Buhler/Farm-King on a John Deere M
(approx. 20 hp)and it will move 7 inches of snow
without too much trouble. Wish I had live PTO but
really not much of an issue. I simply lift up to
clear out any snow in the chute prior to
clutching. It's not an ideal set-up (ideal is
cab, Live PTO, etc.) but it works for me. In
addition, it gives me an excuse to start and warm
the JD in the winter time. Oh, my reverse on the
JD is 1 5/8 mph - not sure if that helps you but
thought I would share anyway.
(approx. 20 hp)and it will move 7 inches of snow
without too much trouble. Wish I had live PTO but
really not much of an issue. I simply lift up to
clear out any snow in the chute prior to
clutching. It's not an ideal set-up (ideal is
cab, Live PTO, etc.) but it works for me. In
addition, it gives me an excuse to start and warm
the JD in the winter time. Oh, my reverse on the
JD is 1 5/8 mph - not sure if that helps you but
thought I would share anyway.
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