best type of duals?

jason, NW Ontario · Nov 22, 2010

For a newbie, what is the easiest type of dual to mount? I'm thinking about duals for the 1850 for next summer - have to start planning now and looking around.

thanks
Jay

Mike Aylward · Nov 22, 2010

Jason, you likely will get many opinions on this. I have had both types but now all the tractors I have duals on have hub duals. I like the fact there is more mud clearance and with an impact wrench they are easier (for me anyway) to put on and take off. I would hate to go back to clamp-on duals. Others may think differently. Mike

paul · Nov 22, 2010

I've never used clamp on duals.

Like the hub duals I have on the TW-20, pretty simple to take off or put on, takes a jack, an impact wrench, and a 4 foot 2x4. Don't always need a jack if I get lucky with a small ridge in the ground. Takes 10 minutes a side or so.

--->Paul

JMS/.MN · Nov 23, 2010

I"ve had duals since I started farming from scratch in 1972. Always J-Bolts until the 150 hp (now 190) 4450 in 1992. Ease of mounting...hands down, the J-Bolts. Either system...no jacks, just set out blocks, back up the tractor. Both...bring the dual to the tractor with the skidsteer...tip into place. J-Bolts...attach anywhere. 4450 with 10 bolt hubs, I/we need to align bolt holes. Use a handyman jack to rest a 3/4 drive socket wrench with extension to match up to the bolt holes, for support (I work by myself). But, when my wonderful kids help, we do it the same, for super tightening, (either way, any tractor, retighten after an hour in the field) Now, without livestock, the duals stay on the 4450 all year, so it is not an issue. BTW- have always run more J-Bolts than recommended, like with the 4020, instead of 4, ran 6. 4240 and 4430, ran 8. On all J-Bolts, I always weld a ring, salvaged with a torch from broken springs from equipment...and run a light chain through them...so if a bolt comes loose in the field, it stays in the wheel, courtesy of the chain.

showcrop · Nov 23, 2010

I'm wondering about the question. Is ease of mounting the most important criteria for you? It should depend also on what you plan to pull.

rustyfarmall · Nov 23, 2010

Those clamp on duals had a tendency to break axles. They were kind of popular around here way back in the 60s, but eventually enough farmers learned the hard way and got a set of the axle/hub mount duals.

fixerupper · Nov 23, 2010

Band type duals put stress on the wheel hubs. Some tractors have strong enough hubs to take it and some don't. Maybe some Oliver owners can fill us in on what 1850 hubs are like. When I bought a IH 1086 new I wanted to save money so I got band type duals for it. The stress kept loosening the wedge clamps in the hubs so I h auled them to an auction and bought used hub-type duals. After welding the center back into each rim twice each I hauled those duals off to the auction and bought heavier ones. If you do buy hub-type duals check the round center section of the wheels very carefully. If there is even a hint of a crack anywhere, walk away. Check the threads in the bolt holes too. Jim

rrlund · Nov 23, 2010

T-rails. The clamps slide around on a rail on the dual itself,so you don't have to turn them to line them up. Just run the tractor up on a couple of boards,roll the dual up beside it,push it up tight,slide the clamp to match up with the eye bolt and clamp it down. Just a few minutes work.

RodinNS · Nov 23, 2010

Probably depends a bit on the intended use... I have T-Rails and they work OK for the most part... but I've also broken both wheel centers and had to replace them with heavier centers... and they will also work loose, sometimes spin a bit, etc. For heavy work I'd probably prefer hub duals... but I've also got the air gun and other gear necessary to easily handle changing them so timewise it's a coin toss as to which is quicker and easier. If you didn't have a big air gun and wern't doing a lot of heavy hauling I'd say T-Rails are for certain the easiest way to go.

Rod

VicS · Nov 23, 2010

Axle mount are better, and just as easy now that we have a 1 inch impact and a 20 ton air over hyd jack. But clamp on have their place also, I have a pair of clamp on 18.4 X 28 duals for my 6060 AC and they are easy on and off and no problem.

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