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brandonh · Nov 7, 2010

I got some feeders, most are around 350lb that are coughing. Their on dry pasture and dry hay. But they cough alot. They are eating good and their poop is tight. Any ideas? I lost 4 a few weeks back. They acted weak, started foaming at the mouth, couldnt stand, and finally died. Have no clue what they had. The vet gave said they were immuned to LA200 and gave us DROXIN. Said it was the best stuff availibe. They have all had it, but 4 died. The reast seem healthy but still coughing. Im somewhat new to cattle. Is there a good fix all vaccination I could give all my new incoming cattle? Thanks

kyhayman · Nov 7, 2010

As to incoming cattle looking at a high stress situation I'd look at an IBR intra nasal and a pasturella antitoxin. I dont bring cattle in but everything on the place gets a 4 way respitory of IBR, BVD, PI3, and BRSV plus a 7 way blackleg with Haemophillus somnus. Then I booster at weaning.

I've read good things about using Micotil as a receiving pretreatment. If your losing cattle the whole battery might be appropriate. As to LA 200, I dont use it at all and only use LA 300 for pinkeye and foot problems. One other option is to get certified preconditioned cattle. You know they are coming in already nnalert.

hayray · Nov 7, 2010

New incoming cattle should be nnalert and boostered ideally before they come into your farm. I vaccinate with Bovi-shield Gold and Vision 8; initial vaccination and then 3 weeks later a booster, the I wait a week and then wean, this way the calves are properly nnalert before they deal with the stress of weaning. In your case your feeders are stressed from weaning, shipping, new environment and vaccinations are not that effective at that point. I am not sure what the foaming at the mouth is but that sounds real serious, I would suggest buying your calves from a lot better source, i.e. pre-conditioned and nnalert, properly boostered.

brandonh · Nov 7, 2010

well unfortunatly I learned a lesson. They were cheap, but looked prett good, but they went downhill fast once they were delivered. Come to find out this boy buys from the sell and then resales. He makes a little but either way he's buying cheap and sellin cheap. I prefer off the farm cattle, but hey they were cheap. Had to learn the hard way I guess.

hayray · Nov 7, 2010

The problem with that cheap stuff is that depending on how big of a lot you bought after loosing x number there is no way to make a profit.

kyhayman · Nov 7, 2010

We've all gotten those lessons. Cheap is usually just what it says, cheap.... Sorry you got burned. Looking at the bright side, a 4 figure lesson is bad enough, a 6 figure lesson is can be a catastrophy.

On the cattle subject, thats why I feed my own, only cattle that come onto either farm are herd bulls. Everything else gets born at one place or the other. Once they hit the sale barn or trailer its only a matter of time until something comes in that you really dont want.

John A. · Nov 7, 2010

Brandonh, Sounds to me like Fast Pneumonia. 20 yrs ago we would use double strength penicillin (Pen b 48) and some chicken medicine that would knock the thunder out of fast pneumonia. Later we would use 90cc of LS-50 and Amino Acid IV push in the jugular vein. When a calf gets that sick They quit drinking water, you may have to run a hose down their throat and give them a couple of gals of water or they will dehydrate. just stay on top of the situation.
Later,
John

Anonymous-0 · Nov 8, 2010

Many years ago i had some death loss ,,,1 or 2 here and there,,,,,then all he$$ let lose,,,,nnalert for BRSB i think is what they called it.....Now if you lose any more get out there and POST them,,,Check there lungs,,,If there shot get some vac,,,its a nasal shot,,,could be most anything but as i stated ,,,if you lose any more do a post and see what you can find that dont look right and go from there...

4010 puller · Nov 8, 2010

Are they drinking much water? I've been told you can get some powder medicine for shipping fever that u put in water to dissolve. I'd try it and have some regular penecilin ready. I tried the la200 thing and the cow died, it wasnt near strong enough. It always seems that smaller cattle tend to cough more when they are weaned and switched from hay to corn/grain. I dont know if its the change in their diet or something in the corn

Allan in NE · Nov 8, 2010

What John A says,

Sounds like what you're describing is what we out here call dust pneumonia and you'll fight it every year when they come in off the grass; especially so in a dry year.

It doesn't make a plug nickel's worth of difference what ya paid for 'em, who your buyer is, or where 'n the heck they came from either.

Pneumonia is pneumonia and isn't region specific like blackleg is. That's a horse of a different color entirely, with totally different symptoms.

Allan

RodinNS · Nov 8, 2010

You just paid for a lot of years worth of Triangle and Tasvax...
Pneumonia would be my guess.

Rod

Anonymous-0 · Nov 8, 2010

I think I would be talking to a vet instead of trying to cure them over the internet, one animal lost is too much.

Pacer 54 · Nov 8, 2010

I recommend that you Google Micotil. If you accidently jab yourself it can be a big Whoopsie. We've had some success with resflor in similar situatons, most important is early diagnosis and treatment. 1 droopy ear,good prognosis. 2 droopy ears,less so.

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