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Central NY . . barn versus truck . . again !

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I was just heading out this morning to Michigan when I got a phone call. Another Chevy S10 truck landed in my barn, 2:30 AM this morning. Third time in the past 25 years. It's been an S10 every time. Firt two times were drunk drivers. This time a young guy who says he "fell asleep." His father is a friend of mine. Every time I patch up the barn a little worse, then it was before.
At least he hit the higher and lightest corner of the barn. There is a lot of weight inside. Over 50 walk-behind tractors, a Model T Ford, three "real" cars and one 1949 Ford pickup. We had to jack up the barn to pull the truck out. In a way, I wish it hadn't been somebody I knew. That way, I could be more hard-nose about the whole deal. Only real damage is the concrete, steel-reinforced pillar snapped.

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If I did, it would be 50 feet down an embankment and in the creek. Barn was there long before the road was. In fact, it's a historic site and supposed to be the first in town, originally built in 1790. At that time, there was a mill-pond, dam, and grist-mill - and barn was at high-water level. Dam broke 100 years ago, so no more pond . . . just a creek 50 feet down and barn is at the edge of a cliff.
 
Looks to me,it is a hazard(historic or not.That barn is almost playing on the road!
IMO there should be at least a guard rail there.

Any signs along that road??
 
After three hits, have you thought about a guard rail, more trees, or some stout bollards planted about 6' deep?

I live on a state highway with a 20,000 car daily traffic count. I can't begin to remember all the accidents within 500 ft that have occurred during the past 50 years. Three involved fatalities, one was a police pursuit, and the most spectacular was a car that was fully embedded in my neighbors dining room. When my neighbor leaped out of bed and ran to the stairs, he failed to notice that the stairs were taken out too. He was hauled away in an ambulance but the driver was unhurt.

I have seen used guardrail piled up in scrap yards. My solution was a little more aesthetic. Granite came from a New York Central RR bridge abutment. It's only been grazed once with minimal displacement. I get a little apprehensive about going to the mailbox.

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Wow how fast was he moving? maybe you need some speed bumps so folks stop usin your barn to slow down
 
Seems to me the hazards are the drivers, not the barn. This is a place where nobody should be going faster then 20 MPH, sober or drunk. Narrow country road and barn is 75 feet from a stop sign and deep cliff.

If the Town decides it's a hazard, then maybe they should not have moved the road there. It used to be 50 feet further away. My point being, the Town moved the road closer to the barn, the BARN wasn't built close to the road.

I guess I don't share your concerns. When somebody drives off the road, I blame the driver - not what gets hit. Trucks don't crash on their own, anymore then guns shoot people on their own.

We have many barns around here that are right on the road edge. Also have a few houses like that. Why? Because the town keeps moving roads, and/or illegally widening them. In this case - that road was 8 feet narrower just 20 years ago, but the Town has illegally widened it several times. I've stopped them several times, but can't watch them all the time. In rural areas of New York, towns rarely own any of the roads. Just have implied easements. Often, the Towns have no legal right to widen, but it gets done all the time anyway, and usually goes unchallenged. Last time I stopped them, the Town tried to take some of my land by Emminent Domain.
 
One would think that if the local municipality was so intent on moving roads, they could put up a little guardrail. I thought it was bad enough here. But it sounds like between them and your school district(s) you are scre!!ed over there.
 
Nope, no more for me unless it's a real odd-ball I don't have. I've love to get a motor-in-wheel Kinkade.

I haven't been to Roscoe in over 30 years. Used to be great diner there on old 17.
 
I'd maybe put up like a Dog kennel with plastic barrels filled with Styrofoam peanuts being that close to the road Bad to see someone decapitated in a Honda civic or smaller car.

There was a barn on a curve sat for many years on a main highway near me. First incident involved three young boys went diagonally up barn bridge entered empty barn 4' beside door driver was thrown out, His body hit the stone foundation dead on impact . Another Older guy was testing out his only driven in sunny weather Camaro and died when he went through the same place after it was repaired.

I did mention the barn was empty. I went past it one morning going to work A tractor trailer driver fell asleep and when he took same route, woke as he left the road too late to save it he actually slid sideways through the barn and the whole thing collapsed on the truck, and the guy lived to tell about it after a weeks hospital stay. Now I dread the possibilities the barn bridge is still there the wood, and stone is all gone the next thing on other side is the house.
The owners don't seem concerned. ?
 
I'd love to relieve you of some Frazer rototillers and any Gravelys you might have. Only distance and money prevent me from doing so.
 
If he fell asleep at the wheel, and still did that much damage to his truck going UP a STEEP hill, I can't imagine how fast he must have been going before he fell asleep. Your acceleration usually stops once you have fallen asleep. I'm inclined to believe that sleep had nothing to do with the accident.
 
Yeah, I had kind of figured the same thing at first - i.e. he was drunk or stoned. Not only is it uphill, the truck is stick-shift. Also, my barn is just a 100 feet past a Y in the road. Seems odd that he was awake enough to turn at the Y, but fell sleep 2 seconds later? And, coming up a hill - with a stick shift? The hill would of needed a down-shift, and how many people shift in their sleep?

Who the heck knows. The kid was there and helped out, along with his dad. Seemed to be sober and nice kid - but it WAS 6 hours after the accident.
Drunk or sober, I didn't want to get the kid in trouble. I certainly committed many screw-ups in my youth.
 
Heck believe I would have gave him 10 dollars for the truck and just left it in place-off the road.

The K rail idea was good.
 
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