My Massey Ferguson 202 Workbull is a little akward to run with the backhoe on the back especially in tight places or around trees but I need the weight because the front end loader is so heavy (especially with a bucket full) that there is no traction. Aside from putting ballast in the rear tires or wheel weights, what are some of the other things you guys use for temporary weight? I don't really like the idea of the 3 pt. holding up a bunch of weight either and I want something that's quick to remove and install.
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bjb in TX from Ne
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How is the backhoe attached? If it provides enough counter balance, build a weight carrier that matches the backhoes mounting brackets. As long as you match the weight of the backhoe you shouldn't overstress anything.
Both good ideas, I never thought of using the backhoe mounts. Might be a little difficult to position and connect. The backhoe is held in place with 4 pins but I can maneuver it with the stabilizers and bucket to get it in just the right place. With some careful planning I'm sure I could make up an attachment that would work.........maybe even a 45 gal. drum filled with cement and a frame to attach to the backhoe mount.
Anonymous-0
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Wouldn't worry much about the weight on the 3PH. Make you something and fill it with concrete. While you're at it, bend eyes in some rebar or something and stick them in for a couple anchors in case you need them
and maybe an old drawbar.
Dave
and maybe an old drawbar.
Dave
Deere Scotty
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Had a neighbor put a 3 pt. bush hog on every time he put his loader on the tractor! He said it was the most economical weight he could think of since he already needed the bush hog.
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supergrumpy
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have exact same issue with my MF35 utility, thinking of welding up a frame to fit my quik-attach mounts then adding a 55 gal drum
add water after it is in place and drain when you want to take it off, downside is you only add about 400 lbs using water
saw a big JD with huge square chunk of concrete on the back, looks like they took it off an army bunker, theu used another loader to put it on
add water after it is in place and drain when you want to take it off, downside is you only add about 400 lbs using water
saw a big JD with huge square chunk of concrete on the back, looks like they took it off an army bunker, theu used another loader to put it on
I'm thinking of a concrete block, not sure how big yet, 1cu/ft of concrete is probably 140-150 lbs depending on the mix and aggregate. I'd bend some conduit for "handles" or mounts and find a way to set it across the frame that the backhoe mounts to. Maybe lift it in place with the 3pt. then put some sort of frame in place underneath it, bolt or pin it and set the block down so the weight is not all on the 3pt.
Not sure how much the backhoe weighs but I'm thinking I don't want the weight I put on to be quite as heavy as it because a little extra down pressure would be nice for spreading gravel and steering etc.
I'll let you all know what I come up with and post pictures when I'm done. Might be awhile but hopefully before I have to start plowing snow.
Not sure how much the backhoe weighs but I'm thinking I don't want the weight I put on to be quite as heavy as it because a little extra down pressure would be nice for spreading gravel and steering etc.
I'll let you all know what I come up with and post pictures when I'm done. Might be awhile but hopefully before I have to start plowing snow.
TomH in PA
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Just curious, why are you opposed to using the 3pt hitch? That's what it's for. Anything heavy enough to do any good would be very difficult to mount some other way.
I put a heavy scraper blade on when I use the front loader. Since it hangs out a couple feet from the rear axle it has the double benefit of transferring a lot of weight from the front end to the rear tires.
I put a heavy scraper blade on when I use the front loader. Since it hangs out a couple feet from the rear axle it has the double benefit of transferring a lot of weight from the front end to the rear tires.
Maybe I am underestimating the capacity of the 3 point hitch. I just don't like the idea of a whole lot of weight being supported by a hydraulic cylinder. I may try to make it so that the 3pt will lift it up then put some support beams across the backhoe frame to bear the majority of the weight.
Anonymous-0
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Massey made weight boxes for the 3 pt. for their industrial loaders. Dave
chevytaHOE5674
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Been running a 1500lbs weight box on the 3pt of tractors for many years and never had an issues.
Did some snooping around on the net and came up with this pic of a weight box attached to the 3pt hitch and if you look close enough you can see a steel cross bar that the box is resting on taking the load off the 3pt hitch.
I believe this is close to what you are wanting to come up with.
I believe this is close to what you are wanting to come up with.
Seen neighbor had his front loader on and needed some more weight in back for about a half hr. job Tires were loaded and had a couple weights on each wheel. He went and put his bale spear on , backed into a 1500# bale and done his thing, when done he put bale back and took off spear, thought it was pretty neat idea of temp. weight. Don c
(quoted from post at 03:13:36 10/06/10) Did some snooping around on the net and came up with this pic of a weight box attached to the 3pt hitch and if you look close enough you can see a steel cross bar that the box is resting on taking the load off the 3pt hitch.
I believe this is close to what you are wanting to come up with.
That looks exactly like what I was thinking about. Although that box looks bigger than I figure I will need. Does anyone know the weight of a 220 backhoe and what the equivalent weight would be from it hanging so far off the back?
Ok, so I answered one of my questions, the weight of the backhoe is 2300lbs. That's a bit more than I expected but it gives me something to go on.
With much of the weight hanging way behind the tractor, the perceived weight on the tractor is also greater as the rear wheels act as a pivot point for a lever. It is my perception that the backhoe seems a bit too heavy at times as the front wheels come up off the ground easily and steering is difficult to say the least. So what I want is a setup that will keep the front wheels on the ground and I want to have a bit more down pressure than I have now without the wheels leaving the ground.
I almost have to hang some weight off the back and figure out just how much I think I need. Considering whatever I do install will be closer to the rear axle, the effect of the weight will be less as far as the front end lifting and more on holding the rear end down. So if I figured on 2000lbs hanging on the 3 pt. close to the rear axle I'd probably be close.............maybe? :?
So figuring that 1cu ft of concrete would weight between 130-150 lbs, I'd need 13 to 15 cubic feet of concrete. So a box 2'x2'x3.25' (for 13 cu-ft) or a box 2'x2'x3.75' (for 15cu-ft)..........or any other dimensions that equal 13-15 cu ft.
With much of the weight hanging way behind the tractor, the perceived weight on the tractor is also greater as the rear wheels act as a pivot point for a lever. It is my perception that the backhoe seems a bit too heavy at times as the front wheels come up off the ground easily and steering is difficult to say the least. So what I want is a setup that will keep the front wheels on the ground and I want to have a bit more down pressure than I have now without the wheels leaving the ground.
I almost have to hang some weight off the back and figure out just how much I think I need. Considering whatever I do install will be closer to the rear axle, the effect of the weight will be less as far as the front end lifting and more on holding the rear end down. So if I figured on 2000lbs hanging on the 3 pt. close to the rear axle I'd probably be close.............maybe? :?
So figuring that 1cu ft of concrete would weight between 130-150 lbs, I'd need 13 to 15 cubic feet of concrete. So a box 2'x2'x3.25' (for 13 cu-ft) or a box 2'x2'x3.75' (for 15cu-ft)..........or any other dimensions that equal 13-15 cu ft.
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