OT: IH Scout

Hey guys...

Welp, heres my latest find, an old scout.

I was just hanging out at one of my friends farms a few days ago, and saw this old girl sitting in the corner of their barn, and asked about it. This morning my phone rang, his dad called to let me know that he was going to scrap it this afternoon if i diddnt want it... So, i now own a scout.

Does anyone know anything about this little truck?? Id really like to get it going and cruise around in it next summer. He told me it has a GM Ironduke engine in it, it will run on ether, and it needs a fuel pump. Its also short three lights and windshield, plus a long list of other stuff.

Does anyone know what model this might be?? How do you drive one of these, with all these strange levers?? Where could i find parts for it?? Is there anything i should know about it??

Thanks guys, and enjoy the video
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If you really wanted to make a cool ride out of it, and hone your welding skills, I'd suggest doing a complete frame off restoration. Pull the body off, repair all of the metal that's rusted out, and make a solid 4x4 out of it. It probably came with an International 304 or 345 V8 motor originally.

No one says you have to finish it overnight. Take your time, do it right each step of the way, and you'll have a ride that'll turn heads...
Scout Parts

what you got there is ether a scout 80 or 800.Im guessin if its got the iron duke 4cyl its an 80. All the levers you are curious about well one is your actual gear shift. the two smaller are for your transfercase. Its called a twin stick. what you end up with is several gear combos. 2wheel hi 2wheel low 4 hi 4 low or front wheels only. Parts can be found on several sites dedicated to only scouts but are a little pricey. Scouts are a lot of fun. Ive had several of them and several jeeps. My best advice is to have patience and time to spend lookin up parts on the net.

it has a 152 cubic inch motor ,,,slant 4 ,,basicly a 304 v8 sawed in half . They never came with GM engine unless someone transplanted it . newer one had AMC inline 6 cyl.They was also a nissan 6 cyl turbo diesel .or the V8 304/ 345 .
i used to own 14 of these at one time . Great fun! Big stick is gear shift ,,3 or 4 speed , one small one is 4x4 lever ,other is high /low range .Very tough trucks !

Well can,t match the guy that had 14 at one time but I did own one of the first 10 ev er built and since then 6new ones and countless used ones.
They are telling you right if it is one of the 4 cylinders keep it that way. Was a real neat solution to engerning by just cutting the v8 Ih down to a 4 cyl. Lots of parts like thay told you just go slow and you will enjoy the money pit. Googel ih scout on e-bay and see what they are worth fixed..

don't know if ya know what you have there.
lots of people would be interested in that for restoration. very good prospect too.

They had several options that were made for them from a Pickup with small cab. to a station wagon soft top, with or without the a safari edition ,
(didn't have full doors just a step over panel) and all these were mad4e from the same truck you have .

If you ever went to a garden tractor plow day and I'm sure there are some in your area and showd pics the way it is you'd make a couple bucks the way it is.

most of the images of what I was talking about nelow
Here ya go

I just knew you would get a Binder of some sort. I remember when an H was on the dream list (before the orange wave pulled you in.
Cyrus McCormick was a prime innovator in the late 1800s. He was well known for making wheat harvesting machines replacing the scythe and Cradle. A dramatic improvement making modest bundles of wheat that were more easily handled and taken to the thresher on wagons. Ever since his fame for that innovation, equipment from His company IHC have been affectionately called binders.
Usually the trucks and road vehicles, not the tractors for some reason. It is a nice find with a good following in the off road $x$ circuit. Jim

Lanse, that 4th shift lever is a Warn overdrive. That could help the Scout experts identify the model and year as the Warn OD fits only the Dana 18 transfer case. The OD is some what rare, but last I knew it is still sold by Advance Adapters under the name Saturn overdrive. Good luck with the scout. If I am right about the transfer case and overdrive, don"t put too much horsepower in front of it or you will have a split transfer case and a handful of broken gears !! ( voice of experience ) KEN

Lanse,

I"ll second what Brian says, and add my $.02.

Like most of us, I"ve watched your projects and they usually start with enthusiasm, then frustration because you don"t know what you"re doing, then lots of good advice that you usually ignore, then spending a bunch of money that you could have avoided by paying attention to the good advice above, then you tear it up so you can at least have some fun. None of the above is unusual, as I"d bet most (all) of us have done the same to one degree or another.

Here"s my suggestion for this one: work on one system at a time. Since you know it needs a fuel pump, get a Scout book, figure out which Scout you have, figure out what fuel pump you need after deciding for yourself if it needs a pump, then install it according to the book. Don"t waste your time making videos, taking pictures, doing donuts, none of that. FIX something.

Then get it running. Tune it up, if it"s tunable. Once it runs sitting still, try making it move, AFTER you"ve read the book and figured out what all "those levers" do. Then figure out what the rolling assembly needs. Then fix that.

The very last thing you should do is anything cosmetic. Maybe never. A sleeper is pretty cool in itself.

Anything you don"t understand, ask lots of questions, but take 10 minutes and think about your question before you ask it, whether in person or on this or another forum. Getting a good answer is usually predicated on asking a good question.

Remember: slow and steady wins the race.

Good luck - I've always though Scouts were cool.

Phil Crome

The Scouts had several engine options. The standard was a 152 CID (half a 304 V8), a 192 CID (half of a 392 V8), and a 152 Turbocharged engine (YES, 152 Gas turbo - - about the same time that Corvair and Olds had theirs).
Also the V-8's in later ones.

Howdy Lanse! I was wonderin' what happened to you. Figured you went girl crazy & left the tractors behind. Yeah, that Scout needs some help. IH trucks are kind of like Mogwai, DON'T get them wet. They'll get ugly on ya, but quick. If you should go about restoring your new endevor, there's a frame-off job in your future (I'd really hate to see the underside of that thing). It's not all that bad of an idea. It's going to be labor intensive, but will pay off in the end as they are bullet proof power houses. Even with the little 152's in them. Should be enough ooomph to pull a two or three bottom plow with ease. Yes, I'm still talking Scouts. When the 800 first came to be, you could order an aftermarket 3 point & PTO. Talk about cool! I'd venture to guess yours is the 80 series. IIRC, the windshield does not fold down & the hood opens forward, toward the headlights, it's an 80. It's been a minute since I researched the mighty Scout, though.

IF you decide to restore the Scout, get the owners manual, shop manual & the parts manual. Also, find the VIN number & get yourself a line setting ticket. This tells you everything IH put on the Scout as ordered from the factory. Then you take that info on the ticket & go through your parts & shop manuals. Everything on the Scout, provided a majority of it is original, will list in the books.

If you want to pass on that project, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, do not scrap it until it has been picked clean of every good & salvagable part! Some restorers must have that original part, used or otherwise. I saw a small-change bidding war over a coffee can full of Scout bolts. Five guys wanted the two (shackle?) bolts on top of the can. It went for $22! So, if all else fails, parts the he!! out of it. You should be able to make your money back & then some. If it has the Iron Dork under the hood, well, I'm sure someone needs an anchor & it ain't me.

I wish you the best, whatever you decide. Keep your whistle wet & your powder dry.

Take care & d@mnit, don't be such a stranger.

Mike

P.S. If you get rid of it, give one in better condition a try. More fun than you could shake a stick at.

Look on the internet. The Scout came out in 1961. I think you may have a model 800(mid 65-71) because it has a fixed windshield and not a fold down windshield. At least from what I could see. If it does fold down, it would be a model 80(pre 65). I'm sure there are Scout owners clubs. You may want to look for one of them. It would be a ton of work and $$$ to fix your Scout but it may have some valuable parts for collectors or other restorers. The Ford Bronco was basically a copy of the IH Scout and came out in 1966. Dave

Lanse,

That is far more precious than scrap!

Just from watching your video, I'd guess you have a 1964 (approx) Scout. The 4 cylinder engine has 152 cu inch (1/2 of a 304 IH V8). Usually they were fitted with a 3 speed manual shift (long shift lever) and a shift lever for engaging 4X4, and another shift lever for engaging the low range gear set in the transfer case. As I see it, that body is salvagable with most severe rust at the base of the door posts. You can patch in pieces as needed to regain strength, especially if you can find or borrow a small MIG welder.

That engine was not a power house, but it was built for stout! There is no timing chain, it is gear on gear like a tractor engine. The exhaust valves are sodium filled for better cooling, and they set down on stellite valve seats. The crankshaft is induction hardened and almost never wears out. The electrical system is Delco Remy, very easy to find parts for at your local auto parts store. The big IH canister oil filter can be replaced by a bolt on casting available from any later 304, 345, and 392 cu inch engine, and then you can use a common screw on filter. I had over a dozen IH PUs, Travelalls, and worked on a few Scouts back in the 60's and 70's. I changed over all my IH's to a Ford type 1A oil filter. There was also a different adapter bolt that allowed a Chevy oil filter to be used. I commonly got over 300,000 miles out of the V-8s before the body totally disintegrated. Besides farm work, they were my snow plowing fleet during the winter, so they were killed with rust. The front inner fenders is the hard part to find if they are rusted out.

There is a whole group of Scout restore guys, and many parts have been reproduced and are now available. Get the title for this one, some future time you will want to have the title.

Dang....Mother Luck has smiled on you. Even if you can't afford to do much with it now, get it out of the weather, especially during the winter snow.

Best of Luck in getting started!

Paul in MN

I think you'll get really frustrated if you try to restore it. However much work you think it will take, it will take many times that much. However much you think it will cost, it will cost far more. Part it out!!!!!!!

In the early 70's a neighbor boy bought a right
hand drive 2 wheel drive scout that had been a
postal delivery vehicle. He dropped a hoped up chevy V-8 and outran most ford and chevy's on
the drag strip. In 1962 I bought a new I-H
pickup. I thought it had a 266 V-8 in it, but
mabey it was a 304. Later in Arizona, we ran
several 392's on irrigation wells.

The 266 was a short stroke 304. It could run all day long at 90+ mph, and I know a guy from N Dakota who used to do just that. They were usually available in the 900 and 1100 series half ton PUs and travelalls. Maybe some Scouts were also fitted with the 266. It was part of the same family of engines....266, 304,345,392. All of these engines were built heavy and tough. The 304 was commonly used in Loadstar trucks (often now grain trucks) and thousands of school busses.

Paul in MN

Look up Binder Bunch and Scout on the web and there are lots of information on early scouts. Paul

As a Scout owner..I"d say that you have a good
PARTS TRUCK !!!!! Too rusted out and worn out
to be worth restoring. NOW...look for a good
restorable Scout, if you"re interested in the
brand...maybe one that has powertrain problems..
and use the rustbucket for parts.
(the Warn/Saturn overdrive, which is an option
that bolts onto the transfer case, goes for over
$1000 new)
Most anything needed to fix a Scout is available,
but some parts are VERY EXPENSIVE. Determine if
the engine is the original, a slant 4, or a
replacement.

266 v8 in a 62 model truck would have been right. Had one in a 64.