allis g vs farmall a vs ?

Thinking about buying a small antique tractor for truck farming cultivation.

Anyone have opinions on models?

Any input is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Probably easier to find a Farmall A, easier to find parts and implements as well. You'd also do well to hold off and find a Super A or later which will have hydraulics. Sam

Or Farmall Cub for cultivating garden. Large garden and plowing farmall C,super C or H, super H, 300 series. Lots of Hs made so maybe a little cheaper than G. Sister has Case VAC that cultivates garden, plows, etc. About same capabilities as a C. If you"re really into green- JD B or 40, 50-- upright cylinder JD M- Family has had them also beside red machines. Ford Ns? Not recommended for cultivating close. RN

A or G would both work. A is more common, so cheaper, but if you can find a G you can steal (less than $2500), you'll have a more valuable tractor to sell later on.

I plow/cultivate with a 1959 Int'l Cub with hydraulics and quick/tach implements...boy it's a jewel, though you will need a front weight to keep the front end on the ground when plowing, cultivates like a dream...and it's "thrifty" on gas !! Allis made a "cultivator tractor (rear engine) that's a great cultivator but somewhat short in the other fields. Depends on how many acres you're gonna truck-farm.If more than ten,consider an "A" or super "A" .

Ford 600 with 3 point implements that are easy to find and easy to hook up.

Hi Sam, Haven't heard from you for a while. Was up your way last Sunday to an old farm auction in Upper Stewiacke. Drop in sometime need some advice on geting the Pony tractor to start. cheers, Murray

Ford had a nice front/side cultivator that were put on many 700s A large veggie operation near me has a '56 that they still use daily. They are not easy to come by though.

Ran a G for years for Clemson University for plot work. They are too weak for real work. Axles are very weak. A rebuild on the engine is very expensive, if you can find all the parts. The narrow tires will sink out of site in soft soil. I would suggest a Cub or Super A. I have used all 3.
Richard

Are you seeking an antique tractor because of cost, because you enjoy them, or only because of functionality?

The reason I ask is that there are a couple of new manufactured tractors of similar likeness to the Allis G. Those are the Tuffbilt and the Saukville.
http://www.tuff-bilt.com/ http://saukvilletractor.homestead.com/

I have seen neither and know of no one personally that owns either. Just wanted to let you know they exist.

Along a different line--offset tractors. A company is remaking new Kubota L3000 models into an offset tractor. So if a modern diesel with modern hydraulics, etc. would serve you better and you"re wiling to pay the bucks---go for one.
I"ll try to provide a link below but can be seen only with a PDF at that site.

If you only need a cultivating tractor you might possibly get by with a Bolens Ridemaster garden tractor which is tricycle principal. The unit has two drive wheels out front that take about an 18-20" wide swath. The small gas engine is in front of the drive wheels, belt drive, worm gear power transfer. Most models no tranmission thus single speed. Drive system power unit will turn 90º to the rest of the unit meaning it turns so sharply that the back tires can pivot on their own footprint which allows going up a row turning and coming down the one beside it.

I"ll let you perform a search to see what they look like. Some attachments available. Built late 40s early 50s.

You might enjoy reading this PDF on growing a few acres of vegetables.
www.ksre.ksu.edu/library/hort2/mf1115.pdf
Offset Kubota under article 46.

Don't expect too much out of a G. Don't overlook a little Allis B or C. Simple, parts available and there are lots of them around. Pull behind cultivators (mounted) are not that accurate. I'm sure you'll be happier with a belly mounted cultivator.

Some of the other posts reminded me that Ford made a modern offset for awhile. It was based on the 1710 and called an offset from what I"ve found about it.

As to overhauling an Allis G---there are also kits made to convert the 12 h.p. gas G to an electric motor powered by batteries.

Search for electric G to see one example.

yes i would also suggest a case va serries like vac etc or farmall a b c etc all are good tractors and common so parts are easy to get and the initial price should be good like others have said allis g is about 2500 or so you also have the allis c and b like others have said a couple have suggested fords but alot of them are not "cultivator" tractors

Farmall Super A, 140, Super AV would all be good choices. The AV would give you better clearance, Any of them would serve you well for planting, harvesting, cultivating, spraying, etc. Local truck farm of about 40 acres had two AV, a Super A, a 140 and a 140 Hicrop (the last might have been a farmer mod). Most of these had axle extensions on them. They also had two Allis G's that they never used, but the old Japanese feller that ran the place kept them around because he thought they were interesting.

For veggies and if you want to plant in 15 to 20 in rows you need the Farmall A. Its not that hard to make stuff for them power and wt make them probably the best. You cant beat a powered roto-tiller that way fround speed is never a factor and it will be the best for preparing soil in all conditions.

Thanks for all the replies. Very helpful. I currently have a Farmall 400, but I'm not a big fan of the narrow front end. On Iowa clay loam, it seems to pack the soil on all but the driest months.

My cultivating tractor is a John Deere B and it has the same problem of packing the soil.

We concluded was that cultivating wasn't the answer for us. We are moving toward a plastic mulch system. Since we work mostly with transplants it was the logical choice. It elimiates cultivating, most of the weeds, and allows for a higher plant density in the field. Unfortunately it doesn't really work with crops that are direct sewn.

Farmall A would probably be my choice for a lightweight cultivating machine. They are cheap, light, and easy to find parts and equipment for.

Good luck.

IH had a 286 (if I recall right). It was set up just like an IH A or 140 and was jap built but much newer and had a Nissan diesel in it. Spent a lot of hours cultivating pumpkins with it. Spent some on a 140 too but it hardly ran so we used the 286 mostly.

If you want an antique look at the Oliver 440's. Same setup but they're harder to come by.

That would have been an IH 274 they where a diesel off set tractor. They where built in japan.