with or without frontloader?

Anonymous-0 · Aug 1, 2010

Hey folks,
starting to look a little harder at a bigger tractor. Somone in town wants mine so he can pretty it up and start hitting the oldtimer shows.
Was thinking that it may be smarter to buy one without a FL and add one myself than buying one with a loader already. My thinking is that the one with the FL will have had a harder life.

what do you folks think?

Dave

jm. · Aug 1, 2010

used front loader usually adds about $ 2500.00 to 3,000 to the price of a used tractor at the most. When you go to buy you will probably be faced with $ 4500.00 . I never advise putting a NEW loader on a used tractor..Just find one with loader and check the clutch, later model tractors have oil or hydraulic so probably o.k.
I guess I vote buy one with loader..

M Nut · Aug 1, 2010

I think along the same lines as you. I bought my tractor without a loader, then started watching ads and craigslist. I bought a loader that was less then 4 months old, virtually new, for less than half the price of a new loader. (original owner's tractor motor tossed a rod and he parted out the tractor rather than fixing.) I have a tractor that hasn't been used and abused under a loader, and a loader that will last me a lifetime because of the way I will take care of it.

Anonymous-0 · Aug 1, 2010

I see it the other way, when I wanted a loader tractor, I looked for one allready mounted. Got to be the easier cheaper way to get the set up and I cant see how a loader tractor is worked that hard. Mine spends most of its time barely above idle, it just doesnt take any power for loader work. A farm loader will never be an industrial loader that can take the full power of the tractor so if you see a loader that is straight the tractor should have been treated ok.

JDseller · Aug 2, 2010

I would usually agree with you but in Germany I am not sure how easy it is going to be to find a loader to fit your tractor. I would not rule out a complete package. I would just investigate them real close. In the size tractor you are looking for I don"t see a serious farmer using it hard for many hours.

Anonymous-0 · Aug 2, 2010

(quoted from post at 22:01:08 08/01/10) I would usually agree with you but in Germany I am not sure how easy it is going to be to find a loader to fit your tractor. I would not rule out a complete package. I would just investigate them real close. In the size tractor you are looking for I don"t see a serious farmer using it hard for many hours.

Loaders can be had for about 600-800 bucks... Depending on trip or hydraulic and if both bucket and fork is there. Can get a little pricier also.

I'll just watch for something taken care of and without fresh paint and just buy something with license plates on it and a newer inspection. Not really looking forward to scabbing a loader together anyway (could use the time better somewhere else).

Thanks, Dave

VaTom · Aug 2, 2010

Dave, to inspect for abuse from using the loader for digging, raise the front with the bucket. Then shake the axle and watch for excessive play at the axle pivot. If you find it, doesn't mean you shouldn't buy, just plan to repair immediately, before it breaks. That can cost a front drive shaft (happened to me).

Hoosierboy's correct about those industrial loaders. In my market about half the cost of a much smaller farm tractor. They're designed for digging, no front pivot. They're also AWD and have 4 wheel brakes. Mine cost $6k. For me, much better than a large farm tractor on my tree farm.

Anonymous-0 · Aug 2, 2010

(quoted from post at 06:07:23 08/02/10) Dave, to inspect for abuse from using the loader for digging, raise the front with the bucket. Then shake the axle and watch for excessive play at the axle pivot. If you find it, doesn't mean you shouldn't buy, just plan to repair immediately, before it breaks. That can cost a front drive shaft (happened to me).

Hoosierboy's correct about those industrial loaders. In my market about half the cost of a much smaller farm tractor. They're designed for digging, no front pivot. They're also AWD and have 4 wheel brakes. Mine cost $6k. For me, much better than a large farm tractor on my tree farm.

I'm probably OK then..The ones I'm looking at don't even have down pressure and are/have been used to load manure, firewood,round bales, and clean up feed lots and snow. I'll look good at the frt end and steering though.

Thanks, Dave

rustyfarmall · Aug 2, 2010

Here is another way to look at it. If the tractor already has a loader on it, the over-all condition of just the loader will quickly give away any secrets hidden inside the tractor. If the previous owner did all required maintenance, and had respect for the machine, the tractor should not have suffered one little bit from having a loader mounted on it. On the other hand, if the previous owner THOUGHT he had a bull-dozer, the general condition of the loader will leave very little doubt as to how the machine had been abused.

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