Hey Old!

You were talking 'bout old diesel and new diesel.

And, have ya noticed that this "soy" stuff just doesn't have the "bounce fer the ounce" like it used to?

I swear those tractors are using more fuel than they used to.

Maybe I'm just grumpy 'cause I have to mortgage the farm and sell of my first born into slavery just fer a barrel of fuel. :>(

Allan

Allen, you should have just charmed them with some of your picking and grinning!!

Wasn't me I stay away from diesel stuff as much as I can since it is harder to work on and when you do have to work on them it costs you 10 times more. Granted a diesel is a lot less likely to brake down but still.

hey allen grow your own diesel fuel. that isn't a nuts as it sounds as we are getting closer to the day when that will be possible and resonable
cost wise

Im sure you are right.My over the road truck got worse mileage on the new stuff.Last summer I drove some brand new trucks and they only got 5 miles to the gallon.My 1998 KW got 7 miles to the gallon,plus it would out pull one of the newer ones.Im sure they make different trucks than the new one I drove,but everybody Ive talked to, drivers and mechanics, say the newer ones are worse on fuel.Im sure the fuel is part of it because my older truck got better fuel mileage before they changed the fuel.

Older Diesels dont have any electrical system than maybe a fuel solenoid and starter.So that makes them easier to work on than gas.Maybe on farm tractors they are higher priced,but you can still overhaul an 855 Cummins for about 700 dollars for liners,pistons,rings.I think thats with rod bearings and gaskets.Some other diesel engines,like Detroit and Cat are expensive.Once you get it overhauled it will last at least twice as long if you keep air and fuel going in it clean and change oil like its supposed to be changed.

Has anyone on here tried to produce their own fuel? What did you use soybeans, sunflowers did it work out?

Sorry Old, but I think you are wrong.......

All depend on how you look at it. Say the injector pump goes bad that will cost your $500-1500 to have it rebuilt. Injectors $50-100 each but yes they do not go out often. A simple tune up on a gas engine is only $100 tops so like I said it is all how you look at things. But I will say a diesel tractor sort got me started in to this tractor stuff but it cost me over $1000 to fix it since it had a bad injector pump on it when I got it plus it was locked up because of that

Dunno if it's the soy diesel or the new ULSD. We only get ULSD which has less than 15 PPM sulfur and I noticed an immediate decrease in economy when I went on that crap. Thank the EPA...

They admit to I think a 2% decrease in efficiency because (I think) the fuel is lighter or at least it has fewer BTU/gallon... but I think the change is probably more like 10-20 % to the bad...

Rod

On volvo trucks they added a lot of pollution control and that made them do worse on fuel. One guy around here paid someone 3 grand to change the computers so it could be by passed. they re solder somthing in the comp box.He took it apart to see what they did and now he shows everyone else how to do it.The guys say it helps substantialy on fuel milage.

I don't think diesels last twice as long as gas motors anymore. 15-20 years ago, yep. Today, nope.

Got 410,000 miles on my '06 Chev 3/4 now. Doesn't use any oil, fuel mileage same as new.

(quoted from post at 17:19:07 07/13/10) Thank the EPA...

Rod

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This is about the 3rd forum I've seen in the last few days talking about the negative impact of EPA regulations on the average Joe. I would agree we don't want to go back to the smokestack-spewing days of a century ago, but doggone it, this country (and Canada) is pretty darn clean compared to a lot of others. However, now that we've pretty much cleaned up our act, the EPA (i.e. its thousands of government workers) need to justify their jobs. They (and the few hundred tree-huggers that seem to get more attention than they deserve) are bound and determined to regulate us beyond comprehension.

At some point in time, we need to have some common sense enter the political arena. Don't waste our time (and tax dollars) with ads about "ozone alert days", telling me not to fill up my car or mow my grass. Or trying to force automakers to build a "zero-emissions" internal combustion engine that will cost a zillion dollars and be as complex as a space vehicle.

In the past, I've had dealings with the state on wetlands and it is too painful to even describe the idiocy that these so-called protectors of our environment are forcing on people. I think downsizing the EPA and diluting the power of its army of enviro-nazis would be a wonderful start on restoring this country to its former glory. Sure, go after the big polluters but don't harass and fine the guy who spilled a quart of motor oil on his driveway. JMO