Ford 861 vs. Golden Jubilee NAA, First Tractor

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Hi guys, I am new to the tractor game and need some advice. My Wife and I just purchased are first home with 5 acres and have decided to buy a tractor. I want to stay under 3000$, and have located some good deals on a Golden Jubilee with live PTO, and a Ford 861, I am leaning towards the 861 but I have never actually seen one and I am concerned about the size as far as maneuverability, I have some trees to go around and some tight areas by a creek, is concerned compared to the Jubilee. I know it weights about 700 lbs more then the Jubilee, but does it set as low to the ground as the Jubilee? Is it much wider, longer, teller then Jubilee? I really like the size of the Jubilee, but I also like the extra HP of the 861. I plan on using the tractor for Brush Hogging, Box Blade work, and a ton of landscaping.

Thanks
James Jones
 
There is no comparison between the two. The 861 is the same overall size as the Jubilee, just as manueverable, has live pto,and 15 extra horsepower.
Joe
 
Get the 861, if it has power steering that would be a plus. It will be a little wider, taller and longer than the NAA. A good part of this will be due to the larger tires that are necerssary with more power. We have a 640 which is the replacement for the NAA and had an 861 and 961. The 861 was a powerful tractor in a compact package, and much more useful than the 640, particularily for any significant ground work. A blade on a 640 is noticeably better than a shovel and pick ax. But expect to be working a long time to get anything done, and if the ground is the least bit hard, plan on purchasing a plow to loosen the soil.
 
Before you buy either , be sure to check all oils & smell it . Look for water in the oil . Then get on the seat , start it up & let it run a while . Watch oil , charging & tach for operation . Operate the PTO & Hydraulics to see how they work . Take it for a ride while checking all the gears out . Look for any auxillary transmissions which will add to value & usage abilities .Check out the wiring , lights, battery, radiator & tires/wheels . Cosmetics are a plus so its your call on that .Be sure to ask many questions of PO & maintenance . Get manuals if he has them . If not, get them after you decide which tractor you buy .If the Jubilee does have Live PTO , that"s a plus worth thinking heavily about . But the 8oo series do have a much better hyd system & bigger engine which is a plus over the Jubilee . Well thats all I can help with . Now go get a tractor & Njoy but be extremely safety minded . Post back . Good luck & God bless America . Ken
 
I'm suspicious of the "live PTO" on a Jubilee- I have always thought they did not. They do have "live hydraulics"- that is, hydraulics (3 point lift) works whether clutch is in or out- so there may be some confusion over terminology.

That being said, get the 861 anyhow, if the prices are anywhere near comparable- its much more tractor, and only slightly larger in size.
 
Go 861. Had a NAA around for years. Good machine,
but no live PTO, and here where I live parts were hard to come by, but that was before the I-net.
 
Well I'll start by braking them down a tad bit. The Jubilee was made in 1953 only and the NAA in 1954, neither one came from the factory with live PTO so not likely that the one your looking as has one either so I would as a newbe rule it out for safety sake. Also the Jub/NAA are 30HP
The 861 will have a 5 speed tranny with a 2 stage clutch giving it live PTO which as a newbe and for what you want to do you need. The 861 is one of the many models of the 801 series made from 1958 to 1962. The 861 is around a 45HP tractor so also a good bit more power then the other one your looking at.
As for size both are pretty much the same size ya one is a tad bigger but not by much
 
861 is way better as long as its not completely worn out.A 861 is a 3-14 plow tractor,a NAA is a 2-14 plow tractor.The 861 is all around a better tractor,and worth more money if you want to sell it some day.
 
James:

The Jubilee/NAA will NOT have live PTO unless it has the rather rare and usually non functional Sherman "live PTO" accessory. Parts for such are largly non existant.

Other posters have covered the other issues.

Dean
 
James,
You are right about not getting much digging done with a black blade, Now if you get a box blade with adjustable shanks you can easily dig down and move all of the dirt that you want to. Another nice tool is a landscape rake to move and level the loose dirt.
 

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