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ryanwheelock

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Question about turning at the corners while mowing hay. Seems like most people always come to the end and make a left turn and raise the mower up and make a circle then lower and start cutting again, Is it bad to make a big sweeping turn to the right instead of pullng out and raising the head and circle to the left. If that makes sense. Is it just harder on the U-joints? My problem is my hydraulics have a problem and the head height is stuck at cutting height. If I try to circle around the already cut hay will plug the sickle. But seems like I get chatter in drive line turing either way.
Thanks for the input
Ryan
PS
After 4-5 weeks of rain finally get to cut some last night and then I find a wheel bearing that is bad on the haybine. Wish it would have had a grease fitting on it, it will when it gets repaired.
 
We NEVER turned to the left with either the bar mower or the haybine and NEVER cut back and forth like they think they have to do it now to take extra time both mowing and baling. Make as sharp a right turn as you can (slide that right rear tractor tire with the brake) when you get to the correct spot for the turn. And you will never plug tht way and the corners will be cut clean. That is the way the owners manuals used to say (just not the part about hitting the brake). Just hitting the brake makes a quicker turn and we never had live PTO or power steering on either the mower or haybine.
 
Just as soon as the cutter hits the end, crank 'er hard to the right and stand on that right brake.

The machine will "double back on itself" and then be in line for the next direction.

Leave the cutter on the ground.

Allan
 
It is a learned thing but I never or almost never do the circle thing. If you learn to time it right you will not miss hay and you can do a sharp right turn. I do it all the time. You get just past the end and turn hard to the right and if you time it rioght the sickle or haybine will do a hard right and not miss any hay. Shoot I even have a manual for an AC mid mount sickle mower that explains how to do it
 
Around here everyone just turn to the right, and leave a small crescent shaped wispy bit on every corner. I used to turn hard to the right, and pick up and turn left on the tight corners to keep it looking tidy, which is ok if you are tedding it out, but not so good to follow directly with a baler or rake. So now I just make easy right turns, and leave those wispy bits on the corners…..if anyone asks, they are there to ‘catch snow’. If I was custom cutting, I’d probably cut corners in tight and keep it tidy. Chris
 
Turning left at each turn is a big waste f time and leaves a poor windrow, unless you stop long enough for the machine to clear. Do like the others said- when the machine pushes back to make the turn, it will push the cut hay back as well- should not clog. Easier to follow that windrow with a baler than what you end up with by turning left.I always preferred cutting in lands, rather than around the field, but that was because I chopped haylage, and would switch wagons at the road end of the field. All fields were quarter or half mile long, and if necessary would split a windrow in the middle to end up full on the end- next load I"d pick up the rest of the split ie- 3 windrows on each load.
 
This is gonna piz some guys off , sO ya all GIT REDY TO LEARN SUMTGHIN'...lol , I have for 25 years moed with a stubguard 489 nh ,, Always cut in a crescent,, It is So EASY,, Like a sunday drive wHEN i GET TO LAST 60 FT IN MIDDLE i STaRT going BACK DOWN cORNERS AND DOUBLE BACK x OUT mY FEILD ,, i DO THIS EVEN IF i HAVE 10 CRESCENTS , THAT WAY IT ALSO CIRCULATES THE HAY FOR BETTER DRYING ABILITY , NEVER STAND ON THE BRAKE , AND scuff tha he!!OUT OF THE FEILD yaNK ing aND jRKING everthing from U joints ,hiches axle bearings brakes , (not to mention flipping the water jug off the tractor , (Some of You can tell I have at least tried it your Way ), If You Mowe in awkwardaz ,rolly -polly hilly cliff hangin fields with Ol Case engineered tractors that never wear out Like I do ,, You will learn the best way to mowe without tearing up everything , AND THAT WAY IS NOT TO TURN TOO damshort making a crescent that is about 12 to 20 ft in lenght , THEM DURNED OL muley-eared Case tractors Want nuthin more than to bust U joint onthe Haybine So they can sit under a shade tree while i fix the haybine..
 
10 sets of crescent corners needs clarification , I have one field on top of a ridge that is star shaped ,,, if it is still wet ... Some awkward fields I will start in middle and work to outside Making a LEFT TURN EVERYTIME ,, Tol Y'All someone was gonna GIT mad ....
 
Got no clue what you mean by "crescent."

If the driveline chatters, then you don't have your drawbar set correctly. It should be 14" from the tip of the tractor PTO shaft to the center of the drawbar hole, and the drawbar needs to be rigid.

Since I've been old enough to run the haybine, we always had a hydraulic cylinder on the hitch to "steer" the haybine around corners.

As you start around the corner, you "suck" the haybine in to keep it from turning too soon, and at about halfway around the corner you "push" the haybine back out to cutting position.

Done correctly, it leaves a perfect corner with no standing hay.
 
That's the best way, Alan. I remember putting flotation tires on the front of a 706 so I did not even turn the wheel-just hit the right brake hard and the front end slid around just fine.
 
Why would anyone get mad. You stay out of my hay field while I cut hay and I'll stay out of yours and we will both be happy.
You do it your way and I'll do it mine. When it is in the barn and the next cutting is growing what makes the difference.

Like Allen and Old, I have never had a problem on corners turning right.
 
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