jacob karau
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How rare is a John deere 4000 that is lp? I have a chance to buy one that has a powershift in it as well.
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Ron Anderson
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We don't have many lp fueled tractors around but there wasn't many 4000s sold around here compared to 4020s. If you were going to use it for the heavy horse it was made lighter and dealers didn't want to sell them.
True,but just depends on where you were. They were a stripped down machine made to sell cheap for a chore tractor for dairy farms and such. Supposed to be the power of a 4020 at a 3020 price or some such thing. Kind of a popular thing to do at the time. I don't remember if it was a 1750 or 1755 Oliver that was being stripped down at about the same time. Had pressed steel wheels instead of cast and other missing options. Seems to me the Clover White parts were light brown or something on those.
So given why the 4000 Deeres were made,I'd think a power shift and LP gas would be quite a rare bird.
So given why the 4000 Deeres were made,I'd think a power shift and LP gas would be quite a rare bird.
The John Deere 4000 was meant to be sold to a person with 3020 implements. He could pull them a gear faster and therefore get more done. I have some of the old literature that states this sales tactic. What happened was guys bought them as cheep 4020 and tore them up.
IH did the same thing only it was a 826. As for how rare???? 4000 factory LP power shift would be rare. It would depend if it was a factory LP.
IH did the same thing only it was a 826. As for how rare???? 4000 factory LP power shift would be rare. It would depend if it was a factory LP.
buickanddeere
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What was undersized in the 4000 drive train vs. the 4020?
buickanddeere
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Very rare machine.
Anonymous-0
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I have the same question, I was always told that a 4000 had the same drive train as a 4020 but was a stripped down,no frills tractor
Tx Jim
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Yes I looked up the rear axle oil seals on JDparts.com
4020 seal
Part Number: R33026
Part Price: 37.99 USD
Description: SEAL,OIL
Specification
Weight 0.31 LBS 0.14 Kg
Shaft Diameter 4.062 IN
Seal Outside Diameter 5.467 IN
Width 0.375 IN
4000 seal
Part Number: RE31701
Part Price: 31.50 USD
Description: SEAL, OIL, ASSEMBLY
Specification
Weight 0.31 LBS 0.14 Kg
Shaft Diameter 3.874 IN
Seal Outside Diameter 5.505 IN
Width 0.375 IN
Tx Jim
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4000 didn't have syncronizers on reverse gears but 4020 did along with larger axles. 4000 had no sheet metal covering rockshaft and no enclosed battery boxes.
In all my years working at a JD dealership I never saw a 4000 powershift let alone a gasoline or LPG fueled one!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous-0
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I dont know how much cheaper the 3020 was than the 4020. My dad went to buy a new 2520, and it was almost as much as the 4020. I think around 600 dollars difference. The dealer said they had about as many parts, that he is just mostly paying for the labor to build it!
buickanddeere
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The axle dia was stepped down outboard of the planetary drives to take the 3020 wheel center.
The trans didn't have reverse syncro's.
The trans didn't have reverse syncro's.
Chad Franke
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It's not a 4000. If you talk to the seller it's a 4020 that has one side panel off a 4000, ad has bee updated.
Also not an original LP tractor, it was converted from a gas tractor.
Also not an original LP tractor, it was converted from a gas tractor.
Tx Jim
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On checking JDparts.com it appears that some rear wheel centers are the same for 4020's & 4000's just the wedges are different
R48955 WHEEL 1 ((A) (B) AND 4000 SERIES) (16.9-34, 18.4-34, OR 20.8-34 TIRE AND RIM) (ALSO ORDER (3) R81272) (SUB FOR R33440)
R33532 HALF SLEEVE 1 (A) (B)
R33540 HALF SLEEVE 1 ((C) AND 4000 SERIES)
(A) ROW-CROP
(B) STANDARD
(C) HI-CROP
(D) HI-CROP AND 4000 SERIES WITH R21480 WHEEL
3020 used same wheel R48955 but different wedges than a 4000 R33539 HALF SLEEVE 1 (USE WITH 34" OR 38" WHEELS)
Anonymous-0
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I dont know how many how many lp power shifts were made but 9 4000
gasoline powershifts were produced.
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