Farmall Super mta Question

Was a farmall super mta ever built without the ta??
I have a neighbor trying to tell me that he has one.

yes.there are afew out there.

Yes. The TA was always an option.

The decal on the non-TA still says Super M-T-A, but it does not have the "wing" on the decal such as a Super M WITH the TA would have.

dad had one of each

Hi Deere: Yes. I saw one several years ago at the Nowthrn, MN threshing show. It had a sign on it explaining it.. Now, in typing this, it may have been a 1st year 400? My Older memory.. but anyway the TA was an extra cost option. ag

Are you guys saying Super M's w/o a TA still had the TA in the hood decal? I thought it just said Super M, like the Super H. we had neighbors with Super M's and no TA, but I don't remember them having a decal with Super MTA.

Is there much value in these tractors??

The Super M and the Super MTA tractors were built the same years-can someone explain the difference between a super M and a Super MTA without a T/A? It doesn't make sense to me why IH would have built both. A Super M with a T/A was a Super MTA. What would the purpose be to order an M with a T/A, and then delete the T/A?

They built straight Super M's in early 1954.

When they ran out of Super M parts, they started building Super MTAs.

It was very common for IH to continue building a tractor until they ran out of parts, rather than cutting off production at December 31st. For example, IH made the regular H and then the Super H in 1953.

There are major differences in the design and layout of the rear half of a Super MTA compared to a Super M.

All Super MTAs had provisions for the TA and IPTO, whether they were equipped with them or not. That means there were spaces in the castings of the transmission, torque tube, and rear end for TA and IPTO.

"Super MTA" was the official model designation of the tractor. The "Torque Amplifier" was a feature of that tractor.

Officially, the Torque Amplifier was STANDARD. "TA delete" was the option.

Why delete the TA? COST. The TA delete was cheaper, and a farmer would order one that way to save money.

Also keep in mind that many farmers were wary of new technology, and had odd notions about things they knew nothing about (wow, just like today!). Many opted out of the TA because they'd "heard" that it was no good from someone.

Well we had both a late model Super M with the live hydraulics and those goofy throw you over the steering wheel lock up brakes and battery case under the seat but it had far more hp than our SMTA diesel. The only good thing is it had Char-Lynn power steering and IPTO which was good for running the chopper. I've just never been a fan of the SMTA especially after we had to redo the TA at a cost equal to half the price of the tractor just before my dad and brother had their auction when we all went seperate ways and dad retired.