Design Flaws - Todays Tractors 20 Years from now?

Adirondack case guy · Apr 29, 2010

I wonder what the replies to the previous topic would be like in 2030!
They burned fosile fuel
They required a human operator
They made noise
We actually grew food in fields
WHAT DO THE REST OF YOU THINK???

Ky Hauler · Apr 29, 2010

Al Gore-ical was right?!!

Phil in Pa · Apr 29, 2010

I doubt there will be a generation of people nostalgic for the modern era tractors like we have here at this time.

The modern generation is "throw away" trained.

Old stuff is just junk to many of them.

phillip d · Apr 29, 2010

Could be true,but hard to say for sure right yet.Take yourself back 30 years to 1980.Many of us were absolutely SURE by the year 2010 we"d be (affordably)taking space vacations,driving flying automobiles to and from work,we"d wearing space looking suits and all the such.Still hasn"t happend yet lol,our cars are even reverting slowly back to rear wheel drive.On the opperatorless tractor ,I"d be pretty nervous if I was about to go to bed for the night if I knew there was absolutely nobody controling the 250 hp monster travelling around and around the field just beside my house lol.It"s absolutely realistic and possible just within our reach,but when/will it become common place?

phillip d · Apr 29, 2010

You've got that right lol.Most young fellas won't STOOP to opperating a tractor as old or older than they are lol.They'll mostly likely be too compilicated,frusterating and expensive to restore.All the electronics that'll get old and corroded,just TRY to find where the bad connections are in a huge wire harness.Not to mention most of them are so big and heavy compared to the little ones most of us have for fun.

Cub n M in OR · Apr 29, 2010

Bite your tongue!

With all due respect, of course.

I happen to be a member of the "yonger generation" that you're talking bad about, and just came in from pulling the front end apart on my Farmall MTA so I can fix the loose cam gear(that wasn't properly installed- by a member of the "older generation") and get MY tractor back to work, plowing.

Ben

RayP(MI) · Apr 29, 2010

Give me forty acres, and I"ll get this thing turned around!

olgentdc · Apr 29, 2010

Well , I will give it a CYNICAL try . LOL Damcomputor shifter solenoids, PTO clutch Solenoid ECT.. Memory hydraulics that drift ,fuel limiter ,engine speed limiter /brakes that engage when steering is turned and more modern BS , And the grandady of All... Nitrogen injection in Exhaust gasses ,, all computor monitored , and will shut off entirely the engine regardless if some damsensor is giving a false reading..That would be worse than a Mule wanting to the barn at near dark even though Ya only got 2 riounds to do before You are Done. I like the stuff built before 1980 ..

buickanddeere · Apr 29, 2010

I do that for a living. Find the mystery phantom elecrical faults that stump others. It's a real feeling of satisfaction to find the gremlin that was so difficult to locate.
All it takes is an electrical meter, Ohm's Law and being able to "see" the circuit that is invisible.

Jg20601 · Apr 29, 2010

I still think that the older tractors will still be around, they are simpler and easier to do minor repairs to. Even in 1978 when we bought our 140, it is far more difficult with electrical issues. It has turn signals, hazard lights, trailer harness with electric brake and stop wiring - all of which makes it difficult when you have intermittent electrical problems cutting the tractor off. Gave up and ran a seperate wire with a push-pull switch so I could plow snow lol

This farm I drive by, this farmer had a 1990s kubota for mowing his field, sat in the same place in the field for two years - I realized he was mowing his field with a Farmall Super A and fasthitch Howse mower around it...

Last month the Kubota went somewhere and came back fixed....

MSM · Apr 30, 2010

The major problems will be electrical in nature, caused by age, high resistance in wiring,corrosion,dirt,rubbed or chafed harnesses ,switch and sensor failures,improper jump start proceedures,all of which will get worse as the machinery ages and the amount of onboard technology increases.
And don't forget the owners and inexperienced repair personnel poking around with test lights and jumper leads trying to bypass a failed circuit or sensor, that ends up frying a $2000. ECM or $6000 wiring harness.

Ken Macfarlane · Apr 30, 2010

Not many 1990's Kubota had a computer on them. None that would stop it from moving at least. Their most fancy transmission at the time was the glideshift and it was all hydraulic then.

Jon Hagen · Apr 30, 2010

Yes, the electronics and use of so much plastic that likes to dry split / crumble after 20 years.

Cas · Apr 30, 2010

So many things can happen between now and then.
I feel it will be a different society than we
know today. We are the first generation to leave
our children in a worse financial position than
any generation before us. We are the generation
that has accumulated 100 trillion dollars worth
of undigested debt!!!
To put it in perspective our country's GNP is
15 trillion.
A few kids will work on tractors, but most will
be scrapped to help make ends meet. A booming
China and India will still be voracious buyers.

Phil in Pa · Apr 30, 2010

Do you think you are the rule?

Or the exception?

Cub n M in OR · May 1, 2010

The exception, to be sure;-)

Ben

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