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Tom Looney
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Spring loaded clamps self adjust for hot and cold,expansion and contraction. More effective than the worm screw clamp. It's evident you're just a whining stay at homer with chinese tools and no experience.
Russ from MN
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Well said!
wilder11354
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the cheaper worm clamps have no tension compensation in them. High end hose clamps do. Yes the "CORBIN" clamps are a pain if you don't have right tool, or even with tool factory locating of tangs is for assembly line ease, not real world service in the future.
I'll say I understand that these clamps are better by design.. But, I too will agree that they are a pain most of the time. As wilder had said, they are rarely ever positioned all that great during assembly.
And Ya, I am a back-yarder who don't have all the special crap that a pro might have.. BUT justification is key in most situations.. I'm not going to spend the money to buy the tool for something I have to deal with MAYBE once a year. (The pair a guy I used to help wrench costed 75 bucks if I remember right.. but were pretty slick.. held the handle and it had a cable that ran to the "jaws" that would squeeze the clamp) And even sometimes they didn't make the job a whole lot simpler.
So as was also said, cut some slack.. we all can't afford to buy all the special tools every time we have to work on something.. And rarely will a service book tell you how to build a special tool these days either (My 750/760 massey combine manual explains how to make a lot of tools to make jobs easier.. never saw it in another book.. everyone else just says to see your dealer and order this tool number or that tool number)
Brad
And Ya, I am a back-yarder who don't have all the special crap that a pro might have.. BUT justification is key in most situations.. I'm not going to spend the money to buy the tool for something I have to deal with MAYBE once a year. (The pair a guy I used to help wrench costed 75 bucks if I remember right.. but were pretty slick.. held the handle and it had a cable that ran to the "jaws" that would squeeze the clamp) And even sometimes they didn't make the job a whole lot simpler.
So as was also said, cut some slack.. we all can't afford to buy all the special tools every time we have to work on something.. And rarely will a service book tell you how to build a special tool these days either (My 750/760 massey combine manual explains how to make a lot of tools to make jobs easier.. never saw it in another book.. everyone else just says to see your dealer and order this tool number or that tool number)
Brad
Anonymous-0
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a give him a brake looks like he likes JD so what do you expect. and what is wrong with round abouts other then people are to stupid to use them right
Sorry Tom, I didn't realize I would find the inventor on this forum! I wish I could AFFORD a set of Chinese tools, until then I'll just have to make due with my two screwdrivers (you know, the plus sign one and the straight one), my adjustable wrench, and my one pair of pliers. I guess I also owe you a big Thank You! for the lesson on "Hose Clamp Temperature Variance". I had no idea the hose clamps required such tight tolerances. Last time I checked it was just a hose clamp. I guess there is a lot more to it than, "Does it leak?".
whizkidkyus
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JDNewbie,
Don't feel bad as I had to change a starter on a 1993 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera with a 3300 3.3 L V6 yesterday in the rain, while lying flat on my back on blacktop . I got soaked, especially the bottom half of me that wasn't under the car ,but it had to be done and the sooner the better. Fixed the not starting problem. I've noticed though, it seems that 75 % of the time you work on something , it dosen't matter how many tools that you have , the job always requires a tool that you don't have . I have a ton of 15 mm sockets with 1/4 and 3/8 drives , but they wouldn't work ,even though the starter bolts were 15mm heads. I had to have a 15mm swivel socket. Luckily , I already had one, as I've had to change it a couple of years ago and bought it new ,then . I owe the person who designed these small compact cars a punch . My starter is located right over the frame cross piece , with one bolt on one side of the frame and the other bolt on the other side of it. Getting it out was a problem to as I had the AC lines as well as a bundle of wires in the way. Oh well , it did fix my no start problem . And yes , I have changed raditors before to , and yes, those clamps can be a pain.
Whizkid
Don't feel bad as I had to change a starter on a 1993 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera with a 3300 3.3 L V6 yesterday in the rain, while lying flat on my back on blacktop . I got soaked, especially the bottom half of me that wasn't under the car ,but it had to be done and the sooner the better. Fixed the not starting problem. I've noticed though, it seems that 75 % of the time you work on something , it dosen't matter how many tools that you have , the job always requires a tool that you don't have . I have a ton of 15 mm sockets with 1/4 and 3/8 drives , but they wouldn't work ,even though the starter bolts were 15mm heads. I had to have a 15mm swivel socket. Luckily , I already had one, as I've had to change it a couple of years ago and bought it new ,then . I owe the person who designed these small compact cars a punch . My starter is located right over the frame cross piece , with one bolt on one side of the frame and the other bolt on the other side of it. Getting it out was a problem to as I had the AC lines as well as a bundle of wires in the way. Oh well , it did fix my no start problem . And yes , I have changed raditors before to , and yes, those clamps can be a pain.
Whizkid
Anonymous-0
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My cousin Clem had a lot of tools, in fact more thn he could tote in his overall pockets. He kept a pair of hog ringers in the back of the old Rambler with his other "special tools" He used these to handle the hose clamps. I learned a lot from him and borried them one time,
Anonymous-0
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I do not know if I like any hose clanps, trouble with them all,(VISE-GRIP MECHANIC) but a roundabout in Ky.! Truly a sight to behold, Ky. drivers can't merge on the Interstate! Once saw a man get out of his truck to see if anything was comming. Round-a-bout? Go halfway around and STOP! now what next?
Tom Looney
Member
Maybe I was a little rough on you. I suggest you take a few automotive classes.
rustyfarmall
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(quoted from post at 18:16:24 04/25/10) Spring type hose clamps are favored by OEMs for cost and assembly reasons.
Dean, former GM design engineer
Exactly!! That is the one and only reason you find them as original equipment on new vehicles.
lloyd in sc
Member
Said by a man who never took a flying leap at the "roundabout", i/e traffic circle, near Dallas Texas where two interstate highways crossed.
First time there, at night, in the rain with three tired kids in the car...
There is a reason traffic circles are found on low traffic roads...
First time there, at night, in the rain with three tired kids in the car...
There is a reason traffic circles are found on low traffic roads...
The spring type clamps aren't that bad if you have a set of pliers made for them. I bought a set for about $4 years ago. just a pair of pliers with a groove in them going out the end and a grove going off to one side. The grooves caught the wire and held it nice, fairly easy to work and with the grooves both directions not too many places where you couldn't get a hold on the clamp. Now roundabouts or I mean (silly circles) are different. Steven
These clamps were used on washing machines.I said that the fellow who invented them should have one snapped on his male member and handed a pair of pliers to see how fast he could the clamp off.Boss sprayed coffee all over the bench.They are nasty even when you have the right pliers.The new cars are a nightmare to work on.I worked for a Ford dealer when the 57 Ford was a new car.
Anonymous-0
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Probably Henry. Got them on my 56 FMD.
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