another big unheard of today gun

ericlb

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the shotgun poat yesterday got me thinking, yes there is a 10 gauge i used to have one, but the 4 gauge question got me, have any of you had or seen one of those old punt guns? if youve never heard of it look it up, now thats a gun!
 
This has probably already been discussed to death, but 10 gauges are still around new. Local store here was selling H&R single-shot 10 gauges a few years back for $75 each.

The "4 gauge punt gun" is not 4 gauge.

"2 gauge punt guns" were actually 4 gauge.
"4 gauge punt guns" were actually 5 or 6 gauge.

There used to be some hand-held 4 and 8 gauge shot-guns, but they got banned for water-fowl use in 1918. Only 10 gauge or smaller was allowed after that.

Parker used to make an 11 gauge shotgun.
Martini used to make a 14 gauge shotgun.
Winchester used to make a 15 gauge shotgun.
Stevens and H&R used to make a 24 gauge shotgun.
Winchester used to make a 32 gauge shotgun, and the 410 later took its place. A 410 shotgun shell can be used in a 45-70 rifle if wanted.

That's just the US centerfire shotgun shells. There was a bunch of rim-fires also, like the 310 Remington.

Then there's the British stuff. The Brits had a "0 gauge" shotgun shell - but it was actually close to the size of a US 10 gauge.
 

Years ago i was at a gun show here in Michigan and there was one for sale that day.

I believe it was a 4 or 6 gauge from the 20s or 30s if i remember correct.

It had a barrel like a cannon and i believe you mounted it to a boat or fixed object to shoot it.

I talked with the gentelmen that had it about the ammo and he said they would load it with all kinds of junk in the hopes of bringing down many in one shot.

So yes they do exist and i have seen and held one at a Bill Goodmens gun show here in Michigan.
 
Punt guns were used by market hunters and mounted in boats to shoot ducks or geese. Each load would shoot up to one pound of shot. The ducks and geese were taken to the market and sold.

Brad
 
I own an original 1872 45-70 trap door Springfield, and my son has a .410. The 2-1/2" shells might chamber, but the cartridge case would be less than operational after firing, the 45-70 has substantial taper to the cartridge, the twist would sure spread the shot though, I don't think it is a good idea. Jim
 
I haven't heard of using .410 in a 45-70 but I can use them in my Thompson Encore pistol with the .45 long colt barrel, there is actually a choke that goes in the barrel if shooting .410.
 
Here is my 8ga muzzleloader that I am scared to fire. And that is a quater ob the ram rod. I can't do moer than one pic per page. The links should work.

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I wasn't saying it is a great idea, just saying it can be done, and HAS been done, many times. In fact, it was a minor selling point to the 410 shell when it first came out.
 
Growing up on the farm during the 1930's and 40's, my brothers and I used many 2 1/2" 410 shells in the families 1873 Springfield trapdoor. Got the job done. Gun still works just fine.
 
Do you not suppose that it would depend where you were, and where the water fowl were in 1918 as to what got banned?
 
I don't understand the question. What is "it" referring to in your sentence "it would depend where you were."

Not being a wise-a**; just don't understand what you are referring to in response to anything I wrote. What depends on what?
 
Did you or did you not make the statement that 4 and 8 guage shotguns were banned for water fowl hunting in 1918? I was calling you (and going all in for that matter) by suggesting that whether or not their was a ban would depend on where you were in 1918. In other words, your part of the world is not the only part of the world. Is that clear enough?
 

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