john deere 60 vs 70 buying.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 25, 2010

Hello from Montana, I am planning on buying my first deere. I Curently own a Case 400 diesel, and a farmall H. both are field units. I need advice on The jhon deere model 60 or 70. I looked and drove a 1955 model 70 yesterday, the owner says he has had the unit for 20 years with no major issues. it has a 3 pt and new tires and of course new paint he is asking $6800. The fluids/oil check out. engine oil was low but clean. I have talked to several people that advise to stay away from the model 70s due to flywheel issues in general??. the price seems too high.
the 1956 model 60 asking price (different owner) was $6500 and after several phone calls is now $5500 plus a $1000 shotgun. once again fresh paint and Power steering. the 60 is in better shape nose wise the 70 had several dents. both are 12 volt the 70 has a gen the 60 has an alt the 60 does not have a 3pt. both tractors appear to be clean. orig gauges working, No painting over dirt and grease. Both have small visiual issues old belt, torn seat, small oil leaks ect. The tractor will be used in FFA Parades and Threshing bees. any advise on the 60 vs 70 would be great. The wife say's forget both and buy a ford 8N. for $2800. Gary, MT.

Bspauld · Mar 25, 2010

I dont know what prices are in your area,I have a 60 now but a 70 is much more tractor and more desireable. plus the 3 pt hitch is worth quite a lot.Around here you can buy a nice 70 for around $4000 to $5000

M Nut · Mar 25, 2010

In my opinion, both are way to high in price. Choosing between the two, the 70 is much more tractor than a 60 is if you are going to do any kind of farming with it.

The Dukester · Mar 25, 2010

Well, first, forget the 8N unless your missus has the last word, then use your own judgement. The 70 is quite a lot more tractor than the 60. Yes, the diesels had flywheel problems. the gassers had few. It really depends on what you want the tractor for, either one can parade or fool around at threshing bees. I guess get whichever one you can "pretty up" the easiest and cheapest. You can haul the 60 on most any tandem axle trailer, the 70 needs a heavy capacity trailer and more truck to pull it.

630rich · Mar 25, 2010

but then again, the 70 has fast gearing, so depending on what you want to do, will it be ok. 70 is a thirsty engine to, if its gas. Both are too much money.

Nancy Howell · Mar 25, 2010

We have four JD 70"s. The most expensive one was a 1955 Diesel with pony motor. Good paint, sheet metal, tires and ran good. We paid $3500.

$6800 is way high unless it has been completely restored with new engine and 4 brand new tires.

Bill(Wis) · Mar 25, 2010

Just for a look see go to ad #377273. It's the second one down right now. I realize it's about 3000 miles from you but do either of the tractors you're looking at look as good as this one? For $4500 with three point. Three point (if it's a genuine JD 3 pt and not aftermarket) will make the tractor worth more if/when you go to sell it. Or,,,,you could ask old buick&deere. He'd probably recommend that 8N. Ha,Ha,Ha.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 25, 2010

He stated yesterday that it is an aftermarket 3 pt hitch and has now counter offered $4500 and a $2000 rifle. People up here like to trade for guns. We have looked every where for the sheet metal for the top portion of the hood and cannot find anything...any suggestions other than a body shop?

Stuart · Mar 25, 2010

Well a new taper lock flywheel is $1100 plus more if the splines are messed up. I have heard that in a tractor pull a 60 will pull better because they are geared lower. They made more 60s so parts are easier to find. I have a 60 and I like it alot, it does have an original 801 three point in perfect condition. You can buy an after market three point that is actually heavier than an 801. The 801 is more of a collectors item now a days. My 60 has 43hp on the dyno and a stock 70 is about 50 hp. I wouldnt think 7 more hp would make a huge difference in your situation. As far as an 8n is concerned, they are a joke.

Bill(Wis) · Mar 25, 2010

For advice on finding JD parts and sheet metal I can't think of a better place to start than on the JD forum of this website. You'll have better luck talking to those boys over there. A lot of them won't "soil" themselves coming over here. (;>))

Pat-CT · Mar 25, 2010

Geez i hope i can get that much for my 60 in a month. It has all kinds of options and im hoping to ask 5k here for the asking price.

johndeereman · Mar 25, 2010

i have a early 70 and a late a wich is very close to a 60 just different sheet metal basically the 70 is way more comfortable to operate than the a i made the a inta a stock puller yeah right lol so it has more umph than the 70 but id still rather drive the 70 even with the 45w loader and no power steering i still prefer the 70 for driving over the a so it really depends on what you want it for and how much you are going to use it i think with a 3 point and live hyd. u will use it more than you think no flywheel issues with my 70 also its a gasser uses little over a gallon an hour running a 9 foot n.h. haybine same with my ford 551 round baler

James Howell · Mar 25, 2010

Depending on your local market, the price on both tractors seems a bit high.

If the tractor will be used by the FFA, buy one "in it's work clothes" and let the young folks "spruce" it up for parades and threshing bees.

They get the "hands on" experience/opportunity to work on the tractor with a lot of their "sweat equity" invested.

Depending on who you ask, there's probably only a 7-9HP difference between the 60 and 70; either would be fine for your purposes.

Hope this helps and good luck to your FFA group.

Cockshutt Mike · Mar 25, 2010

Gary, the price on both are way to high, by the condition you say they are in you can buy two for the price they want for each. I don't know a lot about the 60's but I do know of two 60's that are down for rebuild and restore, both need cranks and machine shop said they can't find cranks. I had a 70 gas, liked it very much, had to replace flywheel, gave many years of great service, but was gas hog. The 70's have a higher value then the 60's. I wouldn't pay that kind of money considering the condition, but to each there own, good luck. As for the 8n, I have ran 8n & 9n and a lot of people like them but you couldn't give me one or get me on another one, but as I said to each ther own and if we all liked the same thing that wouldn't be any fun.

ncpapaul · Mar 25, 2010

Way too high of price for either in my opinion. Take your time and shop around. Paul

Mike M · Mar 25, 2010

I agree with the others that you can find one cheaper or for that price range you can get a much better model 620 or 720 gas.

If your going to work them a 60 will out work a 70 in certain jobs because of the lower gearing.One isn't any better or worse then the other if you stay with the gas model 70.

And as for 8N's the days of them being worth $2800 are long gone ! They usually sell for about 1/2 that. They are what they are. Very hard for me to cut them down in general as they sold in great numbers & parts are cheaper then for anything else. Any tractor that sold in those numbers,can be abused by their owners ( typical owners never owned another tractor )most seen setting outside and don't get much repair and they can still start and run and get some work done gets my respect. But that being said I won't own another one. A newer compact with 4x4 is a far better choice !

Flurette Farm · Mar 25, 2010

Gary, I don't know where you've been looking but, these prices are way out of line!!!!!!!

BlaineF · Mar 25, 2010

Don't know where in Montana you are ,but look on Craigslist in the Spokane ,WA area.Lot's of N series Fords and one wide front end JD 60 which is $3850.00 I think.Do a search for tractors in farm and garden been alot in there lately.I paid $2000 for my 60 2 years ago.There was some Jonny Poppers on Ebay in your area as well.Good luck.I thick you can find a better deal. BlaineF(WA)

buickanddeere · Mar 25, 2010

Power steering, live hydrualics and maybe the live pto option. The ford has none of those.
The 70 would pull two Fords backwards.
You have not mentioned fuel or chassis type of either.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 25, 2010

Both are priced too high. The 60 would be the nicer tractor.

GordoSD · Mar 26, 2010

What kind of rifle is worth $2000? Must be a Pre-64 Winchester.

Gordo

bingo · Mar 26, 2010

I have a 1954 year model 70 restored, LP fuel, new tires, runs perfect, no 3 pt. asking $4,000.00 for it.

MirageFlatter · Mar 27, 2010

Nothing against the two cylinder tractors, I grew up on them, and still have one around. But on the practical side, for those kind of prices you can buy a nice usable 3020, and have a much more user friendly tractor, with more power and utility. Features like REAL power steering, power brakes, locking differential, personal posture seat, etc.. Just my opinion, and 2 cents!! :wink:

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