Looks like the cow laid down on the edge of some ice and couldn't get footing to get up. The ice was melted under its body. I think it was there about 1 1/2 days. I picked it up with a hipbone clamp and a belly strap and put in the barn. Any thing else to do besides pick it up a couple times a day with the hip clamp and feed it good? Thank some of the liquid supplement might help.?It is an old cow that I should have taken in this fall.
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Anonymous-0
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not really a cowman, much more experience with sheep. i would think your on right track. keep her on her feet. good feed. my concerns would be 1. i assume shes bred. when expected. is calve still ok in there. 2. frostbite damage? dont know how cold it was there might be worth watching although not much you can do about it. keep her going till get that calve out and raised would be nice. good luck.
rocko
rocko
If she has much dairy blood it is a one in a thousand chance. I am not reccomending this and hope pita doesn't get wend of it but after my brother had her in the barn a couple of days lifting,feeding,shots and the other efforts,he put the hot shot on her. His therory was if they had the strenth to stand alone there might be a chance. If they failed to exert effort he would give it away or end the misery right there.
chrisinsoky
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do you not have a good vet to call? i relize you cant call 1 everytime hey fart and it smells bad, but in this case a vet may be the differnce in a complete loss...
chrisinsoky
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do you not have a good vet to call? i relize you cant call 1 everytime hey fart and it smells bad, but in this case a vet may be the differnce in a complete loss...
Anonymous-0
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What is its temperature, might put a rug on.Must have been cold lying on the ice.Don't tell it to put the thermo under its tongue.
Nebraska Cowman
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I hate to give recommendations for somebody else's cow but it sounds like beef
Anonymous-0
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Who would knowingly eat a downer cow? I suppose if you're hungry enough, but good healthy beef its still pretty cheap.
Having had this problem once in a while. Evaluate her condition and her worth. In our country a Vet call is sometimes more than the animal is worth. Be careful what medicine you give. At this point she has value as your own meat once you load her full of medicine she is not worth any thing. It might be just cutting your lose by butchering. Sorry,but I have been there.
gitrib
gitrib
Allan in NE
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Sadly,
Once they're down.........well, we know the rest of that story. :>(
Allan
Once they're down.........well, we know the rest of that story. :>(
Allan
Get 7feet of 3/4 in diameter soft rope .Tye.. it just above hoof (between hoof an dew claw)in way it is anug an wont draw tight than on other hoof do same. Tape loose ends neately Need your boy scout rope training here. This will allow animal to walk an will keep her from doing split again. More than likely she has split her pelvis an this will allow you to move her to where she will eventually end up.
olgentdc
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And the sooner the better,,don't wait ...
If she just exhausted herself fighting to get up on the ice and if she eats she might get up after 12 hours or so. Tommorow at the latest I would make her get up on her own or if I picked her up with a strap I would spread her feet out and make her stand, that is the only way to get circulation back. Hope you have good luck.
TomH in PA
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You eat at burger joints much?
I sat in the Little House restaurant in Mansfield Mo one day listening to an old boy claiming he had a cow down for 6 months. Had'ta laugh,but his wife backed him up on it. Don't know what a cow like that would ever be worth after she got up.
Personally,I had one down for 9 days 2 years ago. First calf heifer with a pinched nerve from calving. When she did get up she walked on the front of her ankles for a month. She bred right back and is great now.
On the other hand,we shot 3 holsteins one day that were all lined up side by side. You just never know.
Personally,I had one down for 9 days 2 years ago. First calf heifer with a pinched nerve from calving. When she did get up she walked on the front of her ankles for a month. She bred right back and is great now.
On the other hand,we shot 3 holsteins one day that were all lined up side by side. You just never know.
Dave Sherburne NY
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When I had cows in the middle of Wi. The mennonites
in the area had a tank rigged up where they could get the cow into standing up, then they would fill it with warm water to support her weight.
in the area had a tank rigged up where they could get the cow into standing up, then they would fill it with warm water to support her weight.
If you know why it's a downer, no problem. Had a young springer at my parents farm last year that went down, injured her back legs when another jumped on her. Dad called up the guys that used to do our dehorning, their son has a butcher business on the side and has a pretty nice setup. We trailered her out there, got her back in hamburger a couple weeks later.
Found out from them that she broke her hip, and there was no way she would have gotten up again. NO reason she couldn't be turned into beef for human consumsion, other than the people who got paraniod about Mad Cow.
Used to be we could call cow ambulance. They would come get her, take her still breathing and pay us a little for the useable beef.
Now the only option is stick a $20 under her tail, and call the mink ranch.
Donovan from Wisconsin
If she's really important to you,give her 2 weeks,but expect her to stay down,and don't put your back out moving her around.I've seen a few get back up,but not very many.If you have lots of experience with cattle,calling the vet will almost certainly only bennifit their bank account and not your cow.If she's not up in 2 weeks,or she starts to go down hill,than she's better off in a better place.
HI Guy’s:
Here in Iowa I was told a long time ago that if an animal Hog ,Sheep, Cattle can not get off of the trailer the packing plants can not process the animal.
Will I thought that was Hog wash, Well guess what that is true, Last year I had a 2 year old fat steer break a leg in a hay feeder, and not one packing plant with in 30 mile would process him, so back home I went and did it my self. If you look at it, is no different than processing a deer. I did not get the prim cuts, but it all cooks the same.
Funny Laws:
Jr.Frye
Anonymous-0
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No, and that's exactly why. Why spend over $30 feeding a family of four at the choke-n-puke, when for a little more you can get a decent meal at a sit down restaraunt they will stay with you for more than an hour?
We had quite a few cows for over thirty years.
Considering how long she was down, how she fell,
and cold I would say the prognosis is quite poor.
The only reason I would call a vet is to see if
the stifle bone in her back broke and to give
her the last rites(if you have a Vet that charges
reasonable rates).
Considering how long she was down, how she fell,
and cold I would say the prognosis is quite poor.
The only reason I would call a vet is to see if
the stifle bone in her back broke and to give
her the last rites(if you have a Vet that charges
reasonable rates).
TomH in PA
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Yea, my comment was mostly a joke. But the ground beef sold at grocery stores around here all say "Product of USA or Mexico". So I can guess where most of it comes from.
4010 puller
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ive got one down myself. Cannot see what happened to her unless she fell. Trying to move her legs on the left side laying on the right. She cannot hold her head up. She has a calf on her from January 7 so I now have to chase that son of a brick so I can try to get some milk in him (thats a good word compared to what he was getting called the last 3 hours). He was eating snow and nibbling on hay. I"ll have to call in reinforcements first thing in the morning to get him so he can have some warm milk, he"s way faster than me. Winter is the worst time to fool with cattle it seems.
Anonymous-0
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Go get a gallon jug of Propylene Glycol. Get a 16 Oz. soda bottle and fill it up. Pull her head back and pour it down her throat. Do this morning and evening for about 2 days. My experience has been that she will get up on the first or second dose or you can go ahead and put her out of her misery. Had one stuck in the mud in the pond 2 yrs ago during the drought. Had to drag her out with a rope and then up the dam to be able to dose her. Afraid I was gonna break her legs getting her out of the mud. She had already given up. Dosed her and she was up and walking in 20 minutes. Only to be struck by lightening later that summer. Ya win some, ya lose some.
First off, why was the cow there for a day and a 1/2? Dont you check them 2x a day, and take a head count, or look around? Will the cow get up on her own? If you want to keep her you may want to call the vet, to see if there are any broken bones. If not, watch her, and if not any better you may have to end her suffering. I never have met a vet who was out to get you, but thats just my opinion. Good luck, and keep us posted.
personally i would not consider her fit for food at this point. reason being is she may have fever in her now.there aint a slaughter house around here that would take her after being down that long.
you may try some electrolytes to try and give her some strength.vitamin shot probably would'nt hurt either.
you may try some electrolytes to try and give her some strength.vitamin shot probably would'nt hurt either.
Wesley Stephens
Member
The slaughter house we use won't unload them if they can't walk, but they are under inspection. I don't know about the custom plants that only process meat that is "not for sale."
Ray(MO)
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Take a 2X4 about 3 foot long. Place behind each hip bone and hit with a sledge hammer, then behind each ear and tap it. Chiropractor (spelling) said that to me for my cow. She got up shortly after that.
chrisinsoky
Member
am i the only 1 that has a good vet, that would give good advice or make a trip home or just take a look, (you know what i mean')
i guess im lucky to have an old country vet
i guess im lucky to have an old country vet
DiggerDick
Member
haul her feed and water for 2 weeks, roll her from one side to the other couple times a day--watch her dump the water and waste the feed, strain your back along with whoever is helping you (wife)--then shoot her and dig a hole and wonder why you went thru all the fuss. Been there to many times over the years. once they are down for more than 2 days, might as well give up. would have been better to butcher the first day-if you know why its down. just my opinion
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