cadet trooper
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Go to Walletpop and read the article about Monsanto and genetically altered hybrids. Just got an e-mail about it and it certainly is scary if true. You form your own opinion. CT
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Quite a few inaccuracies in the story, fella had a point to make & didn't research very well.
The truth is likely somewhere in the middle.
Monopolies and buying out compitition rather than competing tends to make this country weaker, too bat that happens but it is an effect of free enterprize. Govt could regulate it better, but then that cuts into free enterprize some, so it becomes a circle....
--->Paul
The truth is likely somewhere in the middle.
Monopolies and buying out compitition rather than competing tends to make this country weaker, too bat that happens but it is an effect of free enterprize. Govt could regulate it better, but then that cuts into free enterprize some, so it becomes a circle....
--->Paul
You can and companies do sell seed that is derived from Monsanto but royalties have to be paid.
Monsanto has the rights to the Roundup resistant gene that is used in seed, but the seed can be sold if the roundup resistant gene is not present in the seed. So all the traits of the plant are in the seed without the RR gene, you just can't use Roundup to spray or you will kill the plant.
Monsanto has the rights to the Roundup resistant gene that is used in seed, but the seed can be sold if the roundup resistant gene is not present in the seed. So all the traits of the plant are in the seed without the RR gene, you just can't use Roundup to spray or you will kill the plant.
cadet trooper
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The e-mail was sent to me by an old business partner that has become paranoic about the chemical influence on our food supply and does not like government control but wants all natural everything. It is partly my fault because he always mentioned an incident where I was loading a corn planter one time when he dropped by and I was loading the insecticide boxes with Counter and showed him what I didn't like and tossed a night crawler into a bucket of Counter and the poor thing turned into frozen stick almost immediately and said this is what I don't like they are our friends. He's never forgot that. I keep telling him the new chems are more earth friendly (I hope)and I'm sure there was a lot of salt used as a carrier in counter which would have caused the instant reaction.
GeneMO
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The man that farms my ground got caught by Monsanto detectives "brown bagging" seed. They saved some of the beans they harvested, had them cleaned and bagged in generic, brown, bags. Saved a bunch of money on seed. The lawsuit and fines cost him $150,000.
Gene
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olgentdc
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Monsanto ought to join Murtha
olgentdc
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Monsanto ought to join Murtha
gene bender
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They said hybrid corn wouldnt work either also rubber tired then fertilizer and the list goes on. Funny people are still living longer food is the cheapest in the world and supply never runs out then someone rites some BS and people jump to readand complain. Just dont make any good sense.
Anonymous-0
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If you look hard you will see Monsanto is trying to gain control of all seed cos.Nais was a Monsanto idea.
greenbeanman in Kansas
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Thanks for allowing us to form our own opinion rather than trying to force the opinions of others upon us.
I had a good laugh over this story statement, "Anyone who can read a label knows that corn, soy and cotton can be found in just about every American food product."
I really need to read a lot more food labels as I didn't know cotton was an ingredient in just about every American food product.
Thanks, I needed my weekly fix of Monsanto bashing, which you didn't BTW. Personally I feel the bashing is all the result of unscrupulous farmers breaking their contracts with Monsanto. As with almost anything a few rotten apples spoil the entire barrel for all.
Thanks Monsanto for the billions of dollars you have spent on research and the great products you have provided. My opinion which all Americans are allowed to voice.
I had a good laugh over this story statement, "Anyone who can read a label knows that corn, soy and cotton can be found in just about every American food product."
I really need to read a lot more food labels as I didn't know cotton was an ingredient in just about every American food product.
Thanks, I needed my weekly fix of Monsanto bashing, which you didn't BTW. Personally I feel the bashing is all the result of unscrupulous farmers breaking their contracts with Monsanto. As with almost anything a few rotten apples spoil the entire barrel for all.
Thanks Monsanto for the billions of dollars you have spent on research and the great products you have provided. My opinion which all Americans are allowed to voice.
Tom from Ontario
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I for one am very opposed to Monsanto's way of doing business and I'm afraid that I am paranoid about what they seem to be trying to do to our seed supplies.
This discussion can go wrong real quick and i would like to thank you folks for keeping it civil.
This discussion can go wrong real quick and i would like to thank you folks for keeping it civil.
Anonymous-0
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If you look at the timeline relating to their rise in fortunes it happens about the same time they started collecting tech fees on every bag of rr soybeans. Yes they ought ought receive compensation but how many times over does this technology need to be payed for? In the long run producers will be worse off because of their technology due to chemical resistance in weeds and increasing production that lowers prices. If they went out of business tomorrow it wouldn't bother me any, you can keep corn clean without rr and figuring in less seed cost I figure I am money ahead.
greenbeanman in Kansas
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I have no issues with those that have good reason to avoid Monsanto for a variety of good reasons just as you have given.
It is those that simply bash Monsanto because a friend of a friend of a distant cousin told them of a news story they read about 15 years ago about the evils of Monsanto so now the company will always be despised even though the person has never even dealt with Monsanto and it is based only on gossip.
As to continuing to charge for technology---did you buy Roundup back in the 1970s or early '80s. Not sure when I bought my first but it cost about $100 per gallon. What is it currently selling for for the same formulation/strength as back then?
Their continued research has brought some fine products to market. Have you tried their Poison Ivy Plus Tough Brush Killer? Sure hammered and killed the poison ivy I used it on.
Reminds me of Burpee and Parks Seeds as well as others, you may pay more but you are funding a lot of research while other ride on their coat tails.
No issues at all with your opinion, you expressed it well and gave why.
It is those that simply bash Monsanto because a friend of a friend of a distant cousin told them of a news story they read about 15 years ago about the evils of Monsanto so now the company will always be despised even though the person has never even dealt with Monsanto and it is based only on gossip.
As to continuing to charge for technology---did you buy Roundup back in the 1970s or early '80s. Not sure when I bought my first but it cost about $100 per gallon. What is it currently selling for for the same formulation/strength as back then?
Their continued research has brought some fine products to market. Have you tried their Poison Ivy Plus Tough Brush Killer? Sure hammered and killed the poison ivy I used it on.
Reminds me of Burpee and Parks Seeds as well as others, you may pay more but you are funding a lot of research while other ride on their coat tails.
No issues at all with your opinion, you expressed it well and gave why.
I will have to disagree to an extent Gary,there is a good bit of cross Pollination going on from across the fence and catching innocent people.On cont.corn-beans,or on corn-bean-corn it is pretty shaky when your neighbors plant all RR and you or whoever don't plant any and Monsanto comes in and says they found the gene in your crop.Your records(seed to acre)doesn't amount to anything with them.No I haven't been accused,but I got some misbaged or whatever seed a few years ago that didn't have the genes it was supposed to,and lost 50-75 acres with no comeback other then sorry and new seed,which don't pay the bills.The Garst thing should have made people open their eyes,but I don't think it has.
greenbeanman in Kansas
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AH, hadn't thought about it but cottonseed oil is used in a lot of foodstuffs.
Anonymous-0
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tech fees went from 7 or 8 dollars a bag to $14 on rr soybeans, they may be able to collect for 15 years but the differential is dollars per unit which equates to the total colected over 15 years, don't kid your self that money is buying more than research. As for poison ivy control soybean tech fees shouldn't finance that. I am sure that more than one mom and pop seed co. buyout and some killer parties have been funded by tech fees.
Anonymous-0
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All your fish and chips are likely to be cooked in cotton-seed oil.
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