OT: those with pellet burners?

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I have a pellet burner and when it is below +10F the burner cant keep up to maintain 70F in the house. So the propane furnace kicks on......Expensive.

If you have a pellet burner can it keep up in real cold weather.?

My home is 2300 sq. feet and 10 years old.
 
Well there's your problem. House is too damn big. Downsize and it will be just fine!

I burn the smart logs in my wood stove, which is essentially a big pellet. They are compressed saw dust logs. I have a soap stone stove that puts out some heat, but I have found that I need to load the stove up with more smart logs than I would with regular wood to keep the same heat. They tend to burn up faster with fewer lasting coals. I like them because they are cheaper than fire wood, and I am only two miles from the coast and forget getting or keeping fire wood "dry".
 
Is the stove "sized" for 2300 sq ft?

Also, the style house will make a difference. Capes and colonials will heat better with a stove over a ranch with a stove on one end of house.

bob
 
Mix a little anthracite stoker coal with the pellets.
With the price of LP and you are purchasing pellets anyways.It can't be more than a dollar or two a day extra total to have the LP assist?
 
I bought the biggest one they sold, 52K BTUs.

Most of the pellet burners are 30-60k btu.
I know that there are pellet furnaces that are larger but.......4 years ago I couldnt find it, and I bought my US stove from a local HVAC dealer for $2000 that included all the pell vent pipe and connections. This HVAC dealer bought 40 of the US stoves. They had them in their storage barn out back.
 
Windows cause most of the heat loss. Even the double insulated are cold to the touch and perform like big radiant coolers. Also a tall chimney can cause a constant draft even though the furnace and hot water heater aren't running.
 
Hi,I live in the north of 49 climate.We are heating a home that's only 1400' square,one and a half (closer to 2) story with only a wood forced air add on burner connected to an old oil furnace (which supplies the air).The wood burner is rated for 150k btu and in temperatures like you're talking I wouldn't want any smaller,in wind chills to close to -40 (which thank God is rare but happens from time to time),which is the same in both scales,it's darn cold in most parts of the house.My guess is you haven't got near enough stove for your square footage in your climate.
 
I understand the burner you bought was the biggest available at the time but it is slightly undersized for your house. I am looking at buying a 2300 sq ft house and had a heat analasys done. They figured I needed a 5 ton unit if looking at geothermal or a 75000 btu unit if using fossil fuel. That was to meet the heating demands down to the coldest conditions possible for my part of Michigan. So your heater can keep up pretty well until we get to those nasty cold days, then it just doesn't have the capacity. It is a great idea to have the LP backup though.
 
I may need to buy a few of those 3M window insulator kits.

I really need to buy another 50 cubes of that blow in insulation too, It is only 6 inches deep in most of the attic.

Buying an outdoor wood burner would be nice too, $3800 later.
 
I have 2 tons left of the Michigan pellet fuel brand, very good quality. I have used 1 ton so far (since thanksgiving)
 
insulation will be your biggest help 6 isnt much we blew 15 in insulation will start paying ya back soon as it is in heat in winter cool in summer
 
I have a neighbour that has one of those.He had it installed about 10 years ago,heats two decent sized homes and keeps the milk house in the barn from freezing,takes about 30 cord a year.He's burned close to 300 cord with it to date.Cost him about 12 000 to install in 2000.
 
I have a 14yr old Harmon PelletPro11,rated at 55,000btu,heats 1800sqft.Which is about the size of my house.But its very open,down is practically one room so is up.Was gonna pop a few holes in upper floor for more heat upstairs,but wife likes to sleep in the same room we hang meat in,LOL.My stove doesnt seem to heat as efficient as it once did though,it was 10 below here last night,it kept house at 68.Ihave to clean mine alot more these last few years,seems the combustion fan clogs up with carbon a lot faster than it used too.Id be careful about mixing coal in your pellet stove,that burns alot hotter than pellets,check with manufacturer before mixing anything just to be on safe side.Make sure your stove is clean,took me a couple of seasons to figure out all the different steps I had to take for proper cleaning.Like you said,2300sqft@70 degrees might be just alittle too much,try and get it to 65-68 and wear a sweater.
Good Luck
Stan
 
Oh yeah forgot,quality of pellets is crucial.Look for ones with lowest ash content
1% and below,there usually the best.
 
Is it really cheaper to heat with pellets than with propane at current propane prices? I don't know what cash price is for propane in Michigan, but I got a prepaid price last summer for 1.20/gallon at our place in Colorado. At that price, pellets would have to be cheaper than $225/ton to beat propane, according to this calculator:

(BTW, it looks like pellets would have to be cheaper than $165/ton to beat what I'm paying for natural gas.)
Pellet fuel calculator
 
I have owned several corn stoves in the last six years and heat my house and shop with them. It took a while before I got what I wanted and it is a hobby.
There is stoves that burn straight corn or pellets or a combination of both corn and pellets. I have a fairly large ranch style house with a open design and put the stove in the most open area we had.
We just got through with -35 degree cold and the temp was 67 in the house. Normally it will hold at 70 where the thermostat is set.
There is many things to look at when buying one of these stoves. Do you want auto ignition? auto cleaning? a stirrer type stove or a pot style? How about the size of the fuel hopper and the ash drawer? Will it take care of itself or do you have to babysit it every morning and night.
Will it smoke up your outside wall?
 
We have used a 35000 btu Corn stove for heating 1200 sf home for the last 5 years.

Outside temps in the single digits, and the small stove starts losing ground.

Overall, we've been VERY happy with the performance, burn @ a bu/day of corn at roughly $4/ bu.

Propane company has started charging for tank rental, as we purchased 300gal in '05, and still have 25% left here in '10.
 
Since installing my pellet stove, the oil company notified us we were no longer on automatic delivery, since we only used 12 gallons of fuel last year. We have a $1500.00 credit balance with then, and are still using the last of the 3 tons of pellets purchased last year. I think I'll ask for a refund and purchase another 3 ton. This stove cost us $100.00, after seeing a garage sale, from a municipality. I called and they let me look before the sale started. I believe it was a deal.
 
I am paying $1.80 per gallon for Propain and the pellets are $220/ton.
For me Pellets are about 1/2 the cost of Propain for the same heat.
Basically Propain would have to come down to .95/gallon to breakeven.
The main advantage of the pellet burner is that the living room is warm, and that is where I spend most of my time.
 
Actually I only run the pellet stove when I am home. I clean it once a day, takes 5-10 minutes with vacuum cleaner and I use Denatured alc. to start the pellets.

I have a 6" existing hole in the roof for a wood stove and I made an aluminum adapter to fit the 3" pell vent pipe into the 6" hole. So the pellet burner runs right up and out the main pipe. (looks nice, all painted black)
 

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