Tractor marketing

4 bottem · Dec 21, 2009

I always got a kick out of the old ads for tractors.Example a Oliver 77 was rated as a 3 to 4 bot. plow tractor, and a H as a 3 bot plow and the int 560 as a 5 bot. plow tractor etc. What and where were these manufacturers plowing. Dad was always very particular about how he set up his plows so they would run perfect and no way could these and other tractors pull as advertised.

rrlund · Dec 21, 2009

I've always got a kick out of that too. My uncle farmed a lot of acres of some fairly heavy ground with an Oliver 88 Diesel and he only pulled 2x16s with it. For that matter,I only pull 4x18s with my 2-135 White,but pulling it in alfalfa sod,up and down clay hills,it's more productive than constantly shifting and playing around with the depth trying to pull something bigger.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 21, 2009

You're right in that the soil and previous crop conditions made a significant difference in how many bottoms a tractor could pull. The plow width, however, was the bigger factor. I believe that these tractors were rated on either 12 or 14" bottoms versus the 16" or 18" that many pull now. That couple of inches makes a big difference.

RDH · Dec 21, 2009

does anyone know why i need to prime my 8n in order to start it? i was told to replace the rings but i thought it was the carb it runs great once its running although i dont think its running to its full potential

IaGary · Dec 21, 2009

Neighbor bought a new 560 diesel in 62.

Pulled 5-14's with it till about 1980. He then went notill or he would still be pulling it.

Pulled it 7 to 9 inches deep in all types of soil but mostly lighter soils.

Black gumgo did slow him down a lot.

Gary

Paul in MN · Dec 21, 2009

This question would be best answered over on the 2,9,8N Forum.

But to be brief, you most likely have a missing spring on the choke door, or maybe even the door is missing. If the brass door is there (can be seen with light and mirror...while on the tractor) then the spring that holds it shut is probably missing. The spring can be bought from CNH.

Paul in MN

RandyB(MI) · Dec 21, 2009

I remember in the early '60,s in the Oliver sales lit. they advertised the "new" 1900 as an eight plow tractor , the 1800 as a six plow tractor. Almost made me embarrassed to be an Oliver lover at the time. Around here in cent. MI it was all a 1900 could do to haul 5 bottoms and it had to scream it's little 4 cyl engine tight to do it. I believe they were only rated at 102 hp and had to turn a lot of rpm to get it.Not much lug down area. That blower had to be spun good to help out. I loved Olivers but "marketing" was overated.

gene bender · Dec 22, 2009

Maybe they wont pull 3 bottoms for you but others can pull them

RDH · Dec 22, 2009

thanks for the info

rrlund · Dec 22, 2009

Yea,when they started selling the 990 as a Massey 98,Massey advertised it as a six plow tractor.

F-350 · Dec 22, 2009

It all depends on the type of soil in your area.It plowed easy in my area.I knew of a Super 88 Oliver diesel that pulled a 5x14 Case plow very nicely. Several local 806's were pulling 6x16's.I had a neighbor that pulled a 6x14 Oliver trail plow with a AC 190XT. Another neighbor with a 1850 Oliver gas pulled a 6x16 Oliver plow.

If you had taken these tractors 10 miles north to a different type of soil they would have all taken 1-2 bottoms off and still had trouble.

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