886 International Starter issue

M Nut · Dec 16, 2009

Hey guys,

I'm thinking I have a bad solenoid, but before I go to the trouble of pulling it off the starter, thought I'd run it by you. When I try to start the tractor, it just clicks. Battery is charged, connections are clean. Eventually if you keep clicking the key, it will start. If you jump the solenoid with a screwdriver, the tractor turns over.
The logical thing is to replace the solenoid right? They get $80 for one at the local parts store, so I thought I'd get advice before I shell out the $80.

rrlund · Dec 16, 2009

Sounds like a solenoid to me,ALTHOUGH,my Oliver 1600 did that a couple of mornings ago. I tapped on the solenoid with a drawpin and it didn't help. Gave the starter a couple of good raps with it and it spun right over.Solenoid is ON the starter on that one by the way. I kinda layed the blame to it having drawn some moisture then froze. It's been OK every since. If it was me,I'd wait a day or two and see if it does it again.

NEsota · Dec 16, 2009

When you say: "If you jump the solenoid with a screwdriver, the tractor turns over.", do you mean jumping the control circuit or the power circuit (large cable)?

Allan in NE · Dec 16, 2009

Are you mechanical?

You can pull the bakelite cover off of the end and dress up those brass contacts on the inside.

I always flip the washer to give it a new wear surface.

Takes about 15 minutes and will save you $80.

Now, your problem could very well be that the brushes are worn down to the nubs also.

Allan

JDTECH · Dec 16, 2009

Not as familiar with the IH as the green paint, but if you are getting it started by jumping it accross the solenoid, then I believe the starter and solenoid are good. Makes me wonder if maybe it is a relay or saftey switch problem. Dad has an 886 4 post rops and has a lot of ground issues, usually cure for his non-starting issues. Good luck

bo · Dec 16, 2009

Bad relay...there has to be a relay find it and replace it.

Kruse · Dec 16, 2009

Connect a cheap analog volt meter to the battery terminal on the starter solenoid. Are you getting 12+ volts? Then try starting it with the key. Are you still getting 12+ volts on this solenoid battery terminal? If you are, connect the volt meter to the bottom lug on the starter. (The one that carries the voltage to the starter motor itself when the solenoid kicks in) Are you getting 12+ volts on this when the solenoid kicks in?
The answers to these three tests will tell you where the problem is.

M Nut · Dec 16, 2009

Well, since I'm not the most mechanical, it's the post where the battery cable attaches to the solenoid and the post on the starter itself, that if touched, the tractor spins over.

M Nut · Dec 16, 2009

Thanks for the advice. I'll give those ideas a try.

Dave from MN · Dec 16, 2009

I think it would be wise if you do what evcer you can to get it jumped and running and bring it to my place to get it off your hands. Granted its has a starter issue, but I"d still take it off your hands, maybe trade ya some chicken!!

Owen Aaland · Dec 16, 2009

(quoted from post at 15:24:59 12/16/09) Well, since I'm not the most mechanical, it's the post where the battery cable attaches to the solenoid and the post on the starter itself, that if touched, the tractor spins over.

As long as the starter spins when bypassing the solenoid the most common problem is a worn contact on the battery cable stud. Remove the cable from the solenoid. Loosen the nut on the stud several turns so that you can push the stud in and turn it a half turn. Reassemble. If the stud has not been turned before that should extend the life of the solenoid for a while.

Allan's method is better but a bit harder to do with the starter installed in the tractor.

M Nut · Dec 17, 2009

Some days it would be tempting to trade a lot of my stuff for some chicken! But, I guess that's part of this farming fun.

mazemeister · Dec 17, 2009

what allen said. i do it all the time. just got to be careful cause those small bolts for the little wires have wires on the inside that can break.

There are 2 copper bolts (one goes to battery, one to starter) and a round copper disc that connects them when you turn the key. file them all so they're flat and shiny, and you're good to go

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