axlehandle
Member
the question that i have can you put a turbo on a none tubo motor will it hold up or there tomuch dirfence in the motors thanks
- Thread starter axlehandle
- Start date
Anonymous-0
Well-known Member
Yes you could but I would advise agains it. The first thing is what are you driving with it? Most engines are spec'd out by the builder of the machine it's installed in. To get any benefit from the turbo you need to reset the fuel pump for a turbo engine. Then you might have too much power for the machine you are useing it in and cause a lot of dammage. Then again your machine might be able to handle it, don't know untill you try. ???$$$???
Later Bob
Later Bob
super99
Well-known Member
Would be nice to know what tractor and what you are going to do with it. For example;
Late 60,s early 70's, putting a turbo on your tractor was quite popular around here. If you took a 4020 and put on a turbo, then had it set up for 115-120HP, used it to pull the SAME equipment as before, only faster, you got along great. If you had them open it up to 150-160HP, then hooked onto MUCH larger equipment and tried to use every horse available, you soon had expensive problems. So much so that the local JD dealer would take the turbo's off and throw them away when he got in a tractor with a turbo on it, couldn't sell them otherwise. SO, what are you gonna do with it?? Need just a little more power to get the job done,YES. Need a bigger tractor, NO. I know of 4010's and 4020's that have been run for over 30 years with a turbo and no more problems than a regular tractor, BUT, the owners take care of them and don't abuse the extra power. Your call. Chris
Late 60,s early 70's, putting a turbo on your tractor was quite popular around here. If you took a 4020 and put on a turbo, then had it set up for 115-120HP, used it to pull the SAME equipment as before, only faster, you got along great. If you had them open it up to 150-160HP, then hooked onto MUCH larger equipment and tried to use every horse available, you soon had expensive problems. So much so that the local JD dealer would take the turbo's off and throw them away when he got in a tractor with a turbo on it, couldn't sell them otherwise. SO, what are you gonna do with it?? Need just a little more power to get the job done,YES. Need a bigger tractor, NO. I know of 4010's and 4020's that have been run for over 30 years with a turbo and no more problems than a regular tractor, BUT, the owners take care of them and don't abuse the extra power. Your call. Chris
I'm not sure what specific differences exist between Perkins turbo and N/A engines... but a general rule in many is that the turbo engine will have a nitrided (case hardened) crank, heavier connecting rods with larger wrist pins, heavier pistons, keystone rings, piston cooler jets, and quite often a different angle valve grind and possibly heavier valves. Also a higher CFM fan and possibly a larger rad and probably an engine oil cooler to dissapate more heat. Larger flow injectors (in some cases) and higher flow settings on the pump would be the other major difference.
That said... there are lots and lots of N/A engines out there that got turbo's added and lots of them ran a long time. I think the key, as already mentioned.... if you use it to pull the same gear a bit faster and use it as a torque RESERVE, you'll get along fine. If you lug the crap out of it every day you're likely to see a piston meltdown.
Rod
That said... there are lots and lots of N/A engines out there that got turbo's added and lots of them ran a long time. I think the key, as already mentioned.... if you use it to pull the same gear a bit faster and use it as a torque RESERVE, you'll get along fine. If you lug the crap out of it every day you're likely to see a piston meltdown.
Rod
Bill in Colo
Member
- Location
- Rio Blanco County, Co
At my working altitude 6000-7000ft we had to add turbos, just to get to advertised horsepower. Ford called them altitude compensator's
axlehandle
Member
have no idea what to motor came out i found it in a army 6+6 i was going to put it in a 1 ton truck the motor has a plate to put a 5 spd behind it not going to get used hard
When a turbo is used as an "altitude compensator" it can work fine on any engine, gas or diesel.
But, for more power along with a fuel delivery increase, non-turbo engines usually have too much compression to use a turbo safely unless you limit boost to 8 PSI max.
Diesel engines that have factory turbo setups are often only 18 to 1 compression instead of 21 or 22 to 1. That with better wrist pins and Keystone piston rings.
But, for more power along with a fuel delivery increase, non-turbo engines usually have too much compression to use a turbo safely unless you limit boost to 8 PSI max.
Diesel engines that have factory turbo setups are often only 18 to 1 compression instead of 21 or 22 to 1. That with better wrist pins and Keystone piston rings.
Brian Jasper co. Ia
Well-known Member
I agree with JDM, adding a turbo and leaving the pump setting alone will give a small increase in power, probably notice improved fuel economy over power. When you start throwing more fuel on the fire is when problems get ugly quick. The 190XT Allis had that trouble since it came with a turbo on it from the factory unlike a 4020 JD. A little tweaking of the pump and you could take the 90hp 190 up to 120-130 easily. The engine could take it, but the early drivetrains didn't hold up if the farmer choose to weight the tractor down to make full use of the extra power.
axlehandle
Member
i for got to tell you i want to put in in a 1 ton truck so itwill not get worked hard it is in a army 6+6 with a plate to put a 5 spd behind it if i got one out of a massey combine but i no you need to change the front pullys cause they are not made for up and down on the throtle
Similar threads
We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today.
Copyright © 1997-2024 Yesterday's Tractor Co.
All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.
Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters
Website Accessibility Policy