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Sometimes things just kinda go over my head......
Bought my little tractor (8N size) then scrounged everything together for a front loader and cleaned a sh!t pile that had been accumulating/composting for 10 years or so. Then used the loader for moving round and big square bales. Took it off a while ago after getting a 3PH spike and deciding it was just in the way. Been brainstorming and coming up with some small digging (mostly topsoil to about 6 inches deep) projects for driveway/sidewalk. Probably no big rocks and no roots. Think it's up to it? No downpressure so I can't imagine there'd be much stress and the tractor'd prolly spin or quit before I stressed the loader. Think I'm safe enough? If it was a big project, I'd hire someone, but I'm kinda just pulling outa the hat as I go.

Dave


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i dont see any reason it wouldnt since you been hauling round bales with it...biggest factor is rear weight...my neighbor has a Farm Trac 60 [long] thats kinda lite in the a$$...we made up a rear weight out of a 35 gallon barrel filled with concrete that hooks to 3 point when he's got heavy work to do.

i cant see from pictures but is that a trip loader or do you have a tilt cylinder too?

another thing i thot was neat is that fender on front wheel...i'm forever gettin a mouthfull of cr*p that gets thrown up by front wheels :(
 
It's a trip loader. If it does the job, I'll treat it to a tilt cylinder. Have the joystick already and cylinders are cheap. Also have a big concrete weight about 600 pounds. As you can see by the fender, they catch more than mud :roll: Took them off until I straighten it (2 years ago and still laying in the barn.....) Be glad to take a couple of pics if you want to make some. Some of the newer old tractors have two bars about the size of crossarm braces on telephone poles bent (or 1 with a T like plate on the end with a plastic/rubber fender bolted to it.

Dave
 
Constantly. For everything. Won't lift a finger to lift a thing. Sometimes make a bigger mess with the tractor than I would with a shovel. 6" of top soil would be one scoop for my tractor. JD 870 compact with down pressure and 4wd. I'm in heavy clay and I dig with it, wet, dry, doesn't matter. If my tractor didn't have a loader, there'd be no point in having it.
Yours...2wd...might be a problem and your loader might just skid across the ground. Give it a shot and see.
 
Oh, before this tractor, I had a 8n or maybe a 9, I forget. I dug out a ice skating pond for the kids with a back blade and dug out a driveway with it. Had to wait til the clay was a bit moist and then cut it about an 1" at a time. It did fine. I love the sound of that long stroke piston just seeming to die and then, "chug" it moved. I put some load on that little tractor and the engine would seem to die but it just chugged through it. Mud, had ag tires on it and nothing stopped it. 2' of mud and it just pulled through it.
I like my JD better...it's got power steering and it doesn't break my thumbs.
 
tilt would make digging easier
i gotta look at my Mahindra and see if theres anywhere to bolt supports for a fender...i got a couple galvanized boat trailer fenders i dug out of scrap heap years ago...mite use them so i quit trippin over em.
 
Dad had an AC185 with a nice all hyd. loader. The tractor was ballasted for field work but not for the loader. He also had a 3 point hitch "Howard Power Arm" backhoe. With that on the tractor it became a bulldozer. I had no troubles using it slowly and not much throttle. My cousin would get impatient and start ramming and tearing and that's when things broke. Also if one corner catches, back off, DON'T lift!
 
Our WD with trip loader will not dig dirt, unless it is really soft. Talked a landscape supply company into letting me fill my bucket (it was 5 blocks away) with top soil, and thought I could dig into their pile (it was on concrete) NO GO. Finally had them use their bobcat to fill my bucket, then I would drive home, dump, repeat 5 times. Oh well, it was fun and I got some seat time. Greg
 
Dave,
I once had a original "tilt loader" (as you called it) on an older Deutz once. Almost the same design as yours and I am sure you have seen them. Ours had an extra bracket made up for it so that we could tilt the bucket down a little so that we could dig with it. The loader did not like it at all if we tried to dig anything but tilled crop land. It was the arms of the loader that would twist to the point that you would swear that they would snap at any point.

If yours has the arms like the common ones on the older Deutz machines (the arms look exactly alike) they are going to be you weak link. Not so much for putting any down pressure, but for when you start to dig with it.
 
Might be able to- look for an adjustment where the bucket latches. Usually one so you can adjust for different tire size, etc. which affects the angle of the bucket.
 
I've got loaders on 3 of my tractors, I don't think I'll ever buy another tractor without a loader. I use it for everything from feeding and loading hay, pushing brush piles, hauling fire wood and countless other jobs. They are a must on a livestock farm. I don't know how we ever got along without them.
 
(quoted from post at 16:27:13 11/29/09) look for an adjustment where the bucket latches..
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Got it.... Guess I'll mount everything back up and try. Will get rid of some clutter at the same time :roll:

Dave
 
I use my loader alot, moving manure, picking up bales that fall off the wagon, moveing shavings to the barn, moving dirt and rocks, and snow plowing. My 4600 Ford with loader is ok, but my Ford 1720 4wd w/loader will out work the bigger tractor, because it has the traction. Any how they are both handy on the farm. J
 
We got a loader last year and use it for snow removal and to load
logs on wagons to take to our sawmill. We've got an MF35 with a
Davis all hydraulic loader which is little heavy for it. I need to get
some 8 ply front tires for it someday. It's a lot easier than trying to
load logs with the 3 point or by hand, and it'll lift up to 1500# or
so. I drag the big logs up close to the side of the wagon and then
drive around so that once I lift the log I only have to go a few feet
forward in a straight line. I need more weight on the back to be
able to dig with it.
Zach
 
I use mine on the "65 d19 pretty hard. Probably too hard. Alot of use on trees lately (big trees - not sapplings)- actually pushing them over and using it to climb on top of them and push all the wieght of the tractor down on them to help bust them off at the ground, or rip them out of the ground. Once in a while I get a stubborn one and push it down right at he bas of the tree and ram it a couple times / try to lift it a little to break roots. Then I pick the whole tree up and carry it to a brush pile. Digging isn"t a problem - just burried our 15 year old dog & have used it for digging out areas for concrete. She gets used alot for rough stuff and lifting, so I am suprised I haven"t brokem it- but I will take the blade any day for driveway work or snow.
 
Should be no problem. I dug out the the top soil for a patio with my homemade 10HP tractor with homemade loader. Not the fastest, but sure beats the armstrong method and you're having fun while doing it.

Areo
 
We put a DuAl loader on a 630 Deere in 1971 and it's still on there and still in use. The cylinders are so worn I can't get them to stop leaking anymore with new seals so someday soon the loader will have to go. Made a grapple claw for it, fashioned after a Westendorf grapple, in the late seventies somewhere. I made a cement weight for the three point and called it a 'poor man's front assist'. It's been used for everything a cattle man, hog man, grain farmer would use it for and then some. The grapple claw is real handy for picking up limbs when trimming trees.

For moving a snow I have a Gnuse bucket on the back of the 1086. It's not the handiest thing in the world but it'll push a big pile of snow and it has a WARM CAB! Jim
 
Hey dave, Did you get the pictures ok? We(son & I) are heading out tomorrow to look at a O.C.crawler. I wont use the 706 nor the 722 Bobcat as a Dozer. The homestead is on SAND SOIL but none the less why try and make a dozer out of a tractor with a loader or a Bobcat with a bucket that was designed to clean a barn? I sure dont object to using both to load wood on the truck.or to grade the drive, or pushing snow.
In my opinion(for what it"s worth-Maybe not worth anything at all)earth moving equiptment was designed for just that purpose, moving earth.
Just can"t see wrecking good equiptment(lots of expense to make repairs)and then purposely wrecking it by using it as a dozer. My 2 cents worth.
LOU
 
Well said LOU, A farm tractor with a loader is not indestructable. If you use it carefully, you can do a great deal of work with it,,, but bulldog it, and ramrod it, and you will pay. J
 
Dave . Yep sent pictures to the e mail address shortly after you sent you address. Will try again tomorrow. will send 2 [email protected]
again in the morning. My e mail address will show up as sender so you can let me know if they got to you O.K. Hope my remarks on the loader usage didn"t offend you and after long consideration if it were me, with a slight depth of digging, I would use a roto tiller to loosen the soil then scoop it out if it wasn"t a big project. I"m going tomorrow to look at a O.C.
crawler and from what I was told, the fan came loose and tore up the radiator, It"s gonna take a new core, turn the pins and a couple of rollers,now thats his story but I"m sure it will take additional parts and work. I had a 420 crawler years back and I had a lot of work done to it to make it a great unit. Both final drives, 1st gear ,seals and bearings in the final drives plus having the axles re welded and turnd down where the axle shaft was driffed punched to hold the bearings in place. All in all it was a great unit. Now comes around again , a place to grade off a secondary septic site and a place for the building to put equiptment in (The hidious tractor etc)for one.
Wish me luck.
LOU
 
Bought a new JD 5303 two years ago with a loader....my first loader tractor. How did I ever get along without it! I use it for everything:

Manure
Digging holes for pets who've passed on
Firewood
Cleaning up around the farm (wheelbarrow)
Moving lumber
Pushing in metal T-posts
Moving round bales (w/add on forks)
Feeding square bales (holds three)
Lifting heavy things out of my truck (usually with chain)
Loading scrap iron
Getting unstuck in a soft hayfield
...the list goes on.

When the guy delivered the tractor, he ran me through how to take the bucket off and put it back on. I forgot how, because I've NEVER taken it off and I don't plan to!

Which leads me to a question: I do all my hay cutting, tedding, and raking with this tractor, always with the bucket on. Is there any harm? Why would I take it off? Like I said, it's gotten me unstuck a few times on soft ground.

By the way, I bale with a Farmall 460. Much better for baling. How would I get along without that TA?
 
Before I got my little one arm I had to do some digging at our hunting land with a dirt sccop. It is sandy soil and I used a box blade with ripper teeth to free up the compacted top and then the digging went much faster. You might want to consider doing just that if you have a box blade. That is how I will "dig" with my one arm loader: loosen with the ripper teeth and scoop and dump with the bucket.
 
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