O/T City don't like our horse poop

37 chief · Nov 27, 2009

We keep a couple old horses on our place for someone else. The poop is dumped in the field below the corrals. I usually disc it in when the piles fill the area. Now the county don't like it, they saw the wheelburrow piles and said it may end up in a stream about a mile away. The county inspector contacted the city to do something about it, the city contacted us. Like the old saying you know what flows downhill. Problem the stream is mostly reclaimed sewer water. I'm sure the water from the plant is always as pure as the wind driven snow. I am just going to disc it in tomorrow, and put in a silt fence below the field they aren't too expensive. I just can't ignore it now, two agency's are looking at us. Just another day in the neighborhood. Stan

buickanddeere · Nov 27, 2009

Find out which busy-body neighbor called the authorities.Then wait for them to break some bylaw.
Is the property zoned rural, agricultural, residential, commercial or what?

Anonymous-0 · Nov 27, 2009

(quoted from post at 22:17:20 11/27/09) We keep a couple old horses on our place for someone else. The poop is dumped in the field below the corrals. I usually disc it in when the piles fill the area. Now the county don't like it, they saw the wheelburrow piles and said it may end up in a stream about a mile away. The county inspector contacted the city to do something about it, the city contacted us. Like the old saying you know what flows downhill. Problem the stream is mostly reclaimed sewer water. I'm sure the water from the plant is always as pure as the wind driven snow. I am just going to disc it in tomorrow, and put in a silt fence below the field they aren't too expensive. I just can't ignore it now, two agency's are looking at us. Just another day in the neighborhood. Stan

Sh!t piles can only be 100 sq meters or smaller here and in a different place each year. Checked with satellite. Guy about a quarter mile away has greenhouses and takes all I have when I can get it there but sometimes it's just easier to add to a farmers pile.

Dave

37 chief · Nov 27, 2009

The land was zoned rural as far as I know. When the city incorporated it went from county to city. Next thing I know, we are now residential. All that is left of the farm is almost 4 acres, and, has houses on all sides. Stan

james rumph · Nov 28, 2009

Check and see how your taxed "AG" or "Residental". I have a friend that with out his knowing they decided to change this. "Zoneing"

When they do this your subject to differnt laws and taxes ,a farm is grandfatherd in .

You have the right to have this put back if this is the case. My friend just so happened to have a law degree.

Sounds like you have some new neighbors or subdivision. I love it when people move in some place knowing what is already there and think they can just change it.

Hold your ground this is how it all starts, next thing they will want the horses gone.

Check your zoneing...

Dblair · Nov 28, 2009

did you sell your farm for houses?

GordoSD · Nov 28, 2009

Ask to see the law or regulatio, ordinance you are supposedly in violation of. You should be as familiar with all the codes as the prosecutors. Do some research. Use the net. Findlaw.com, whatever. Goggle "manure in ----------"

Gordo

Todd-L · Nov 28, 2009

Who gets blamed for the wildlife and their poop that might end up in the steam?

LEH · Nov 28, 2009

Gordo is right. Ask to see it in writing. 75% of the time, the inspectors for zoning spout their personal opinions.

Mike (WA) · Nov 28, 2009

Check state law- many states have a "Right to Farm" statute, which basically says that so long as you are using best management practices, you can't be classified a "nuisance" and subject to prosecution.

Rather than dump in piles, you need to spread it- its a better practice (less runoff of manure water than in a pile), and its less noticeable to the nosy neighbors.

Walterdavies · Nov 28, 2009

I would tell them to go to "He!!" then see what happens most of the time they just move on forget it unless they have a real good case.
Walt

Anonymous-0 · Nov 28, 2009

I Know, it's mostly the principal of the matter but you might be able, with just a couple horses, to set up a couple compost piles. Think if you give in the least that you'll be through though. Hold your ground. I'm the kind of guy that, after going through something like that and winning, would get a couple hogs. Had a neighbor complaining about my chickens so I bought a rooster and set a light on a timer that would turn on every hour for 5 minutes. Rooster crowed all night. Neighbors soon got neighborly.....

Dave

Anonymous-0 · Nov 28, 2009

Even if they change your zoning, most zoning ordinaces have "grandfather" clauses in them. As long as the "nonconforming activity" is in use without interruption it ramains legal. If you get rid of the horses and don't immediately replace them you are out of luck.

Areo

bc · Nov 29, 2009

This is likely an EPA thing and not so much a zoning issue. The Feds and state control this. The clean water act is fed law and everyone has to comply. The Clean Water act, Clean Air act, and a host of other EPA creating environmental laws were passed back when guess who was president? (Tricky Dicky). The state and feds monitor water up and down stream from municipal wastewater treatment plants and your city won't want to get gigged for someone else increasing the pie. The city regulates their storm sewers so don't let anything go towards them.

Don't leave the piles. Disk it in as you go or fill a manure spreader before doing it. PIle it by the barn

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