Ouch! That Hurt!

Allan in NE

Well-known Member
Had to put a set of tires on the pickup.

Ostupid and his cohorts have imposed a 30% duty on imported materials.

A new set of tires is now $900..... I bought a set of take-offs instead. :>(

Allan
 
Tires have gone up because the price of oil has gone up and there are very few tire companies left.

You have been hornswoggled about the import duties, unless you want to blame the current administration for the dollar's decline against other currencies and the oil price increase.
 
I'm gonna believe there is some truth to both reasons, his & yours. A 30% import duty does _not_ go un-noticed in our wallets - when most tires sold in this country are imports. The point of the import duty - right or wrong - is to raise the price of the commodity so domestic makers can get more than they were. Domestic makers - what few there are - of course raised their price - that was the point. The import tires likewise had to go up to cover the cost of the tax.

The cheap dollar & fears of inflation have led to products coming from other countries going up in USA$ cost - which I think is another way of saying your point?

Together, the price of tires have gone up for sure.

At the same time, China reduced their offers for ag goods in realiation for the import duty, so crop prices & meat prices went down. That's sorta good for the USA folks who buy food. Might almost balance out if you buy a lot of food and not so many tires?

Unless you happen to be a farmer. Then you get to pay more for tires, and you get paid less for what you produce.

Always seems to hurt those in ag the most when they play political games.....

--->Paul
 
Haven't bought them yet, but I priced 4-17" for the wife's trailblazer, with road hazard they are right at $700.00.
 

Well said Paul. Without the import duty there would be no more US made tires in a few years. Damned if we do and damned if we don't.
I surly agree that no matter what, the farmer all ways get it in the (neck).
 
My chevy dealer has new take offs, wheels and all, for reasonable. Think 22", low profile on that 3/4 ton truck!
 
i just put four new Firestones 265 x 16 10 plys mounted and balaned made in USA on my 3/4 durmax last week for $644.48 tax inculded
 
priced 4 P--R245/78/16 mounted blanced new valve stims for 450.00 for the set. master craft made by cooper us made. didn;;t think that was all that bad. hwy, type tread.
 
Why would you put imported tires on your truck? That's one of the problems in our country-people think they're getting something better if it's "imported." All the tire sellers have done is jack up their prices on the imports because they can make more profit
 
I do know that they announced which means threatened a punitive tax on Chinese tires for alleged dumping which went to the World Court on Trade and Tariffs. Just the threat allows tiremakers to raise prices. Can't tell if it was implemented.
 
BDT, you haven't priced tires in a while have you! My dad put a set of Goodyears on his Crownvictoria. $787.00 out the door. That was passenger car tires! 6-8 ply farm truck tires, Mich., Goodyear, Firestone, will be $900-$1200 a set.
 
I have been running used tires on my half ton for the last several years. I bought a set of 15" wheels for it to go along with the 16" factory wheels. Now at auctions I will pick up a set of good used tires in 15 or 16 and keep them till I need them. I try to keep a set of street or light A/T on one set of wheels and mud grips on the other so I have a set of winter and summer tires. I am running on a set of 32-10.5 Buckshots now that I bought a year ago at a farm sale for $50, another $40 to get them mounted and balanced, the were about 75% tread and should last me for 4 or 5 winters. I don't see much logic in putting $800 in a set of tires under a $2000 truck.

Just wish I could find good used 16.5" tires for my ton of fun but them are hard to come by.

Dave
 
The cheap imports kept the local made tires honest. Two years ago tires were going up with oil prices in lock step. Oil dropped back down like a rock and tires never did even bounce. Something ain't right there.

Dave
 
Coloken, there is a custom wheel and tire joint about an hour and a half from my house that sells them real shinny wheels with the little bitty tires as well as the really big wheels with huge mud tires on them. There are alot of folks who will buy a brand new truck and take it to get custom wheels and tires on it before going home, they figure the $2500 or so in the price of a new truck. The tire shop will buy their new factory tires and wheels for about $300 and sell them for $400. Yes, I am like you they have some complex that makes them think big tires on shinny wheels will help them compensate for being a little small in other areas.

Dave
 
This past spring, my Firestone dealer told me that truck tires would be seeing a drop in price due to lower crude oil prices...

While there, I inquired about a pair of steer tires for my Peterbilt, and also tires for two farm tractors and a Chevy van... He said that he doubted that the farm tires would see a price drop as fast as truck tires....

I have watched tire prices, Ya, and some of the large truck tire sale prices were starting to look good in October.. Oh crap!!
 

Tires may be the only deciding factor between a nissan and Volvo SUV for us. Guy has a new set of tires that will be mounted prior to pickup on the Volvo $750. The Nissan will run around 300.

Dave
 
There's a few cars running around with the black stick on numberswith
" 22" ) stuck on the fenders...figure that one out.

Dave
 
I have a set of 16.5's on 8 lug aluminum rims I'd let go for a decent price. But they are 31-12.50-16.5 load range D I beleive.
 
Got this in an e-mail...all I'am gonna say.

Remember Lee Iacocca, the man who rescued Chrysler Corporation from its death throes? He's now 82 years old and has a new book, 'Where Have All The Leaders Gone?'.

Lee Iacocca Says:

'Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder! We've got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, 'Stay the course..'

Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America , not the damned, 'Titanic'. I'll give you a sound bite: 'Throw all the bums out!'

You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore..

The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs.. While we're fiddling in Iraq , the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving 'pom-poms' instead of asking hard questions.. That's not the promise of the ' America ' my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I've had enough. How about you?

I'll go a step further. You can't call yourself a patriot if you're not outraged. This is a fight I'm ready and willing to have. The Biggest 'C' is Crisis! (Iacocca elaborates on nine C's of leadership, with crisis being the first.)

Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times of crisis. It's easy to sit there with your feet up on the desk and talk theory. Or send someone else's kids off to war when you've never seen a battlefield yourself. It's another thing to lead when your world comes tumbling down.

On September 11, 2001, we needed a strong leader more than any other time in our history. We needed a steady hand to guide us out of the ashes. A hell of a mess, so here's where we stand.

We're immersed in a bloody war with no plan for winning and no plan for leaving.

We're running the biggest deficit in the history of the country.

We're losing the manufacturing edge to Asia , while our once-great companies are getting slaughtered by health care costs.

Gas prices are skyrocketing, and nobody in power has a coherent energy policy. Our schools are in trouble.

Our borders are like sieves.

The middle class is being squeezed every which way.

These are times that cry out for leadership.

But when you look around, you've got to ask: 'Where have all the leaders gone?' Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, omnipotence, and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the point.

Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away our shampoo?

We've spent billions of dollars building a huge new bureaucracy, and all we know how to do is react to things that have already happened.

Name me one leader who emerged from the crisis of Hurricane Katrina. Congress has yet to spend a single day evaluating the response to the hurricane or demanding accountability for the decisions that were made in the crucial hours after the storm.

Everyone's hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping it doesn't happen again. Now, that's just crazy. Storms happen. Deal with it. Make a plan. Figure out what you're going to do the next time.

Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when 'The Big Three' referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen, and more important, what are we going to do about it?

Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debit, or solving the energy crisis, or managing the health care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry.

I have news for the gang in Congress. We didn't elect you to sit on your asses and do nothing and remain silent while our democracy is being hijacked and our greatness is being replaced with mediocrity. What is everybody so afraid of? That some bonehead on NBC news or CNN news will call them a name? Give me a break. Why don't you guys show some spine for a change?

Had Enough? Hey, I'm not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom here. I'm trying to light a fire. I'm speaking out because I have hope - I believe in America . In my lifetime, I've had the privilege of living through some of America 's greatest moments. I've also experienced some of our worst crises: The 'Great Depression,' 'World War II,' the 'Korean War,' the 'Kennedy Assassination,' the 'Vietnam War,' the 1970's oil crisis, and the struggles of recent years culminating with 9/11.

If I've learned one thing, it's this: 'You don't get anywhere by standing on the sidelines waiting for somebody else to take action. Whether it's building a better car or building a better future for our children, we all have a role to play. That's the challenge I'm raising in this book. It's a "Call to Action" for people who, like me, believe in America '. It's not too late, but it's getting pretty close. So let's shake off the crap and go to work. Let's tell 'em all we've had 'enough.'

Make your own contribution by sending this to everyone you know and care about. It's our country, folks, and it's our future. Our future is at stake!!
 
Careful. We call them Mastercrapp. I liked the tread, worked well in snow and mud, but didn't last at all. These are on trucks that are pulling a trailer or plowing snow their whole life and they would only last 12-14k miles. I've had many others last quite longer.
 
Them would be nice and I would perk up if I had a 3/4 ton or regular axle ton but them would be kinda tight stuck together on the back of mine. Thanks for the thought.

Dave
 
Actually what has happened is when oil goes up, the price of related items such as gas and tires go up.
But oil has gone down.
Good luck getting any of the greedy bums to reduce gas and tire prices very much.
 
(quoted from post at 18:27:51 11/24/09) T..also just plain used tires...charles

I have a hard time finding used 37" in 15"rim size. :lol:

About 2 weeks ago I jsut had a set of 4 shipped to my door, $1300 later. At least I had the joy of mounting them my self, fire is so enjoyable.
 
(quoted from post at 19:59:45 11/23/09) Why would you put imported tires on your truck? That's one of the problems in our country-people think they're getting something better if it's "imported." All the tire sellers have done is jack up their prices on the imports because they can make more profit

I live just a few miles down the road from Allan, and we've been here long enough to learn that sadly, Hankook, Kumho, Toyo, etc., all last much longer on our native rock roads, than anything made in America. :( Tires have come to be to much a major investment, to not invest in what works best, and lasts longest.
 
I guess I should have stated that we are having to pay more for name brand tires. Are they worth the extra $$.... I don't know. Dad and I have real good luck with BFG's on the 1/2 & 3/4 ton pick-ups. Goodyears and Mich. on the cars and mini-vans. Dads '03 f150 has the OEM BFG's at +67,000 miles and they will make it through the winter.
 

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