What does this do?

Anonymous-0 · Oct 17, 2009

Advertised as a rake and tedder (best translation). I'll be putting up several small places long and narrow (20 ft wide) and a couple of 2 acre fields. Will this take care of me, or will I need to look at something else?

Thanks, Dave

Too Far Gone · Oct 17, 2009

Round here we call'em a rake.Ive got a 7 wheel myself

trucker40 · Oct 17, 2009

Thats a rake.I have seen a tedder but not up close.A tedder kind of throws the hay up in the air and I think the turning part is shaped different and at an angle to where it throws the hay up.A rake more rolls it over and to the side.The rakes I have seen like that have 2 sections and come to a V shape so they double windrow to the center.Im sure others will know way better than me.

Zachary Hoyt · Oct 17, 2009

Here in NY I have heard those called wheel rakes. I've been told
they are great for big flat fields but they are easy to catch on fences
and bend, if you get them too close. I'd think you'd maybe want
something smaller for a 20' wide area.
Zach

Tom in TN · Oct 17, 2009

Dave2,

There is an implement that is a combination rake and tedder. It usually has two large sheet metal pieces that swing out of the way to tedder or into the path to create a windrow.

What you're showing looks like a wheel rake (as all of the other guys said). I just wonder if there's something special about that rake that attaches to it to make it into a tedder/rake. I don't think so, but then I'm a couple of thousand miles away from where you and that rake are.

Tom in TN

Janicholson · Oct 17, 2009

That is a wheel rake. Simple as it looks. I think that with care in turning, it will serve your purpose well. They are trouble free. JimN

keh · Oct 17, 2009

That wheel rake has me confused. First, I can't see how the finger wheels are attached to the frame, but obviously they are. Next, is all the red pieces part of the rake assembly. I assume the rusty pipe is not part of the rake. I had a 3ph 5 wheel rake you could make it serve as a tedder, after a fashion, by flipping the wheel carriers over which caused it to make little windrows, but thats not a true hay tedder.

Look up Befco Wheel Rakes and turn to a 3ph model and you can see the wheel carriers which can be flipped over. That proceedure is not very useful IME and the wheel carriers are more useful to help the rake float over rough spots. Get some complete instructions from the owner on how it works.

KEH

wilamayb · Oct 17, 2009

For sure it's a wheel rake. It is in no form a tedder. It is just a different way to rake hay from a bar rake. It has less moving parts.

The wheel rakes are cheap, but I still prefer the bar rake.

When raking a crop such as wheat or clover the wheel rake will pull dirt into the windrow. It will also knock leaves off of your legumes as it drags them across the ground if you plan to bale any. It also twists the hay as it rolls it on the gound while the bar rake will "fluff" the hay into a windrow for faster drying and easier baling.

If you are just looking for a cheap rake dont exclude the bar rake especially if you are looking for a single windrow rake. You can pick up an old Deere or New Holland for $5-600 in my area.

The downfall for the bar rake is the ability to hook them together. Manuaverabilty becomes limited in tight spaces unless you go with the "V" style which will cost a pretty penny $10-15,000. A new "V" wheel rake will be less than $5000. The "V" style will basically allow you to get twice as much done in a pass. The real benefit to the "V" wheel rake is the fact that it is tractor drawn not integral, which makes hitching a bit easier and it can be pulled down the road with your truck.

jimva · Oct 17, 2009

Thats a 4 wheel rake. Its good for long straight and flat fields. As for it being a Tedder yes it will ted so to speak ,not very good. If i was you i would pass on this and look at a better machine. Such as a New Holland 254 Rake/Tedder combination or a Vermeer TR 90 Rake/Tedder or a Lely 300 Rake/Tedder.
I can vouch for these. All 3 work good at either Raking or Tedding.

sasedivy · Oct 17, 2009

(quoted from post at 20:10:02 10/17/09) Will this take care of me, or will I need to look at something else?

Looks to be just a regular wheel rake, the difference between the bar style and a wheel rake is with the wheel type you can rake at a higher speed.

With the small amount of area you need to work I'd stick with the bar style rake, you'll be able to maneuver easier plus they do a better job...

Scott

Anonymous-0 · Oct 17, 2009

find a nice 5 bar rake
it will make the proper size windrows for your baler
you can pull it with your 4 wheeler
ron

RodinNS · Oct 17, 2009

For cheap.. probably the best value you'll find, at least around here is a PZ Haybob.
It's similar to the Vicon pictured below... but it's just a simple two basket tedder/rake combo. It's cheap to fix. It has few complicated moving parts unlike the NewHolland 254... it's biggest downside is the fact that it's a narrow 2 basket and it's slow. Hardly worth thinking about for what you're doing.
Those 254 NH's can be great for what you want IF you get a good one. If you get a worn out one, it's an expensive nightmare.

Rod

Sid · Oct 17, 2009

It is a three point mount wheel rake. Claims were made they could be used as a tedder. I like them as a rake. As a tedder I do not know. That one looks like the hubs have been torched out of the rake wheel. It sure doesn't look right to me.

Tony S. · Oct 17, 2009

It"s a windrow turner. Not much good as a real rake.

Anonymous-0 · Oct 18, 2009

At the moment, I have access to (and probably could have it for the asking) an old horse drawn machine that is probably real close to a tedder (like this one).

5ft wide and can be pulled with the quad. Just don't have a rake and really don't have the room for a bunch of equipment. That's why the combos always get my attention.

Dave

Anonymous-0 · Oct 18, 2009

(quoted from post at 16:56:17 10/17/09) find a nice 5 bar rake
it will make the proper size windrows for your baler
you can pull it with your 4 wheeler
ron

Is this what you mean?

evilboweviel · Oct 18, 2009

close
you would need one with a hitch and two wheels out the back that drive the rake.
Ron

Anonymous-0 · Oct 18, 2009

would a 3pt pto driven do what I want? found one less than 10 miles from the house for 20 bucks.

Dave

sasedivy · Oct 18, 2009

would a 3pt pto driven do what I want? found one less than 10 miles from the house for 20 bucks.

Yes!

jimva · Oct 18, 2009

I believe this is what evilboweviel is talking about and if iam not mistaken iam not sure if you guys have this type of rake over there.

Anonymous-0 · Oct 18, 2009

This should do the same??

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Dave

jimva · Oct 18, 2009

Should do the same, the rake in that picture looks similiar to a Ford 503 hay rake.

Anonymous-0 · Oct 18, 2009

Don't mean to be thick headed, but will this do both (ted and rake)?

If so, I'll pick it up Tuesday (get my baler tomorrow).

Dave

rankrank1 · Oct 18, 2009

(quoted from post at 12:12:45 10/18/09) would a 3pt pto driven do what I want? found one less than 10 miles from the house for 20 bucks.

Dave

If $20 in your country is similar to $20 in the US, then you should already have that rake at your house regardless of whether it will tedd or not. Nothing like having a cheap back-up around. The red rake you posted later looks awfully nice for $20.

Even if the rake will not truly tedd, they can still be used as a windrow turner and some will even scatter them a bit for some improvised type scatter/tedding to help with drying if you play with the adjustments and angling. Sometimes when a tool is all you got you make do with it even if it less than ideal, but for $20 I would never complain.

jimva · Oct 18, 2009

It will only rake hay. It will not Tedd.

jimva · Oct 18, 2009

I will also add, since your a novice to making hay and equipment (not to be mean in anyway, heck we all were at one point or another) I would suggest spending some time looking at videos on youtube.com. Just type in the search box, something like baling hay or tedding hay or, raking hay etc. and you will find a wealth of videos, American and Foreign of folks doing this.
Since i found youtube i have been made aware of all sorts of different types of equipment from around the world in farming. All from simple folks making a few videos. There has been several videos of different equipment that ive called my buddies to come over and "watch this" as we have never seen stuff like they use in Europe.

Anonymous-0 · Oct 19, 2009

I just say 20 bucks as a comparison. It's 20 euro which, with the current exchange rate, is about $32. When the euro first came out, it was 1 to 1.

I guess I'll pick it up tomorrow then.

Dave

TimMiller · Oct 19, 2009

We bale over 60 acres a year and we do not have a tedder. If the hay needs to be dried a little we turn it over several times with the rake to let it dry out.

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