Buddy seats across the pond.....

You'll see anything from pooch to kids to grandma on these and all are expected to hold on. Don't hear of many falloffs. ROPS makes them a little more foolproof. There are seats available to strap in toddlers.

Dave

Cool. Now what kind of tractors are in the pics?

That is a lot more to hold one in place than the tractors had that my brother and I rode many, many hours from the time we could stand and hold on until we left home. We rode the fenders when we were in High School to hook the plow back on after it would break loose in stony ground. Actually rode standing with one foot on the drawbar when Dad rented a stony farm that had only been skim plowed. I can not remember even a close call with my brother or myself. Probly was due to the constant clear somewhat colorful commutations directed to us by our Dad while riding. Key words are: clear- colorful - constant.
I think Larry and Fawteen would understand the statement.

I don't think any of our 10 and 20 series John Deeres had any paint on the tops of the fenders or around the front grab hole or around the curved rear edge. I always figured these were supposed to be polished rust. It could be a bit un-nerving at speed on the road with a heavily weighted 18.4-38 spinning inches from your knuckles and posterior.

(quoted from post at 07:24:26 08/10/09) Cool. Now what kind of tractors are in the pics?

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Lanz in the background, not sure what the other is. Stole the pic from the 9,2,8N board.

Dave

Naney the front one is a Fieldmaster and the back one is a Lanz Bulldog one of the smaller in the Lanz line
And yes Dick I do understand about the langage here is a better shot of the field master

and luck

Larry I don't remember seeing you before but that's not to say you haven't or we haven't talked. Just thought I would ask what part of Ga.

Roy north east of Valdosta
Larry

Sounds perfectly safe for anybody and everybody. Even you and your brother could have rode on there for 100 years with your Father's guidance and never suffer an injury.
All these other people who fall are obviously inferior and incompetent idiots unlike your family.

They put a little less value on human life over there, as We witnessed about 65 years ago...

I don't think it's a matter of being inferior or putting a different value on life.. Life is a number game... When the big guy decides it's your time, it won't make much difference how you go. Just enjoy life and tractor rides.

Dave

Yes, besides the belief in reward vs risk issue, the other "universal truth" is the big guy holds all nnalert cards. You do make choices, but he decides the time.

The Almighty gave us free will. We can choose jump into harms way, and lots of people do.
If it's raining outside. It's up to you not the Almighty for choosing to put on a rain coat when it's raining and getting wet or not.
Taking no responsibility for our actions and saying it's God's will. Sounds a lot like the typical Moslem's ending of a sentence when answering a question, "If Allah wills it".
You can sluff off a lot of responsibility for you actions with that attitude.

We used to (probably still do) teach Arabs to fly at our military flight training centers. When it came to teaching them right of way rules, it meant absolutely nothing to them to mention the obvious fact that if they didn't observe the rules they could get killed. To them, it was solely up to Allah. There was nothing they could do. We used pink slips (unsat ride) to drive home the point and they accepted the fact that rules were rules.

Why Dickel, whatever could you mean? ";^)

Rode with Dad a LOT, in fact can't remember ever being turned down when I asked if I could ride along.

Two factors were involved, I suspect.

1. This was 50's and early 60's and farming was done at a MUCH slower pace. Most of our tractors wouldn't go as fast in "road gear" as folks till and plant at these days.

2. Dad didn't own a rotary mower, and I don't recall ever riding (or asking to) when running a sicklebar.

Also, this was pre OSHA/Nanny State. Cars didn't have seatbelts. Helmets and pads were unheard of for riding bicycles. Mom's didn't carry Anti-bacterial Everything everywhere they went. If Momspit couldn't fix it, you were gonna die...

And before B&D comes all unglued, I ain't saying it was better then or what's standard now is bad, I'm just saying it was different.

And somehow, we managed to survive and breed.

There was more breeding. You hardly miss loosing one or two kids out of a litter of 8 to 12.

I believe the recent massive deaths of "innocent" victims in the airplane/helicopter accident and the drunk woman crashing after driving down the wrong side of a highway can not be explained by "free choice". Although in general a fatalist, I do believe that he expects you to use options available to remain alive; eg a true fatalist if in the path of a speeding train would not move, because if he is destined to survive something/someone will save him. Not me, I would try and move quickly move off the track, but do believe if it was my time, something would prevent me from doing so. I also believe this explains why individuals survive situations with the overwhelming odds against them. Personally I've been in several close situations envolving automobiles that a split second or a foot different would have resulted in death. Some would claim luck, I believe it just wasn't my time.
Also have issue with your "super human strength" statement. In most instances our rider was nearly in as secure position as the driver, and if happened to be more precarious, the driver would limit ground speed. Don't doubt if the front spindle snapped off the rider would probably have been thrown and the driver might remain in the seat. But if someone is severely hurt or killed by a spindle snapping off, I believe it is more an act-of-God, not a free choice issue.