super a key on or off turns over, won't start

pheel

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i put a new battery and new cables on the a as advised turns over like it never has before, but it won't start and it turns over weather the key is pulled out or not, why, doesn't seem to be getting fire. thx pheel
 
If it has a distributor you need to check for battery voltage to the coil with the ignition switch in the on position. Use a volt meter or a test lite. If there's no voltage at the coil you then need to check your ignition switch for voltage. See if voltage is being fed to the switch and if there's voltage to the terminal on the switch that feeds voltage to your coil.
Clean the points with some 320 wet or dry until shiny. If they're pitted replace them.

If you have a magneto you won't have battery voltage to it since they don't need it. Clean the points in it too. Then see if you have fire to your plugs. No fire could mean a weak coil, condenser or weak magnets since they're required
when they pass by the coil. Hal
 
"it turns over weather the key is pulled out or not"

What are you calling the key? Has somebody actually added asome kind of key and/or solenoid? Where you say "pulled out" I wonder if you're talking about the pull-out-to-run, push-in-to-stop button switch. If so, yes the tractor will crank no matter where that switch button is -- it controls only the current to the coil and has nothing to do with the starter.

And if that's the case, I dont' know the history and couldn't rule out you having other ignition issues to deal with, but it may be that all you've done is flood it, if you cranked it for any amount of time with the ignition off. Those 113/123 motors wouldn't take more than one or two cranks at full choke with the ignition on, and not too many more even without the choke before they'd flood. If the ignition was off when you cranked it, you need to consider that maybe you were just flooded. . .

If you truly have no fire/spark, then it's another ball of wax. Pull any plug wire from the plug. Place the plug-end terminal near (1/16"-1/8") a ground (the clip on your distributor cap is good). With the ignition ON and the fuel valve on the sediment bowl CLOSED (Why flood her any further?) see if you get spark when the tractor is cranked. The spark from the wire to ground might have some yellow with it, but should give the general impression of being blue. If so, then it may just have been flooding. If not, then have a good look at your ignition.
 
What is the tractor. Can make a difference as to us being able to help you out. Hard to help with out knowing what your working on. From what you say it sounds like a ford but it could be a good number of others also but most older fords with turn the engine over with or with out the key being on
 
It's capitalized a little oddly (not at all actually) in the header, but I think he's asking about a Super A.
 

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