Oh, we evil dirty dusty farmers

Go ahead, try Googling "EPA goes after farmers creating dust" just like that. I heard about it this weekend. And when they say dust, they're not just talking about plowing, planting, or harvesting.

That's all that I'm going to say. You Google it, take your pick of any of the gazzilion hits and read away, and then you decide for yourselves whether its right, wrong, or something else, and what to do about it.

Mark

More Government control, yah, that's what we need!

Yea - but try to tell a city person about it.

Hey, that's good, better for the environment, and last fall they came and combined past my apartment at 11:30 at nite, why would they be out so late.


Real conversation I had with a clerk at a Long John Silver's last fall.

We're done for. Cut down the Brazilian rainforest, and import all our food from there. Won't be able to grow it here.

To affect the folks at this site even more: EPA regs on exhaust - farm vehicles might well need to be retrofited or destroyed. Will they let your hobby machine alone???? Hum. Gotta control the global warming gasses. Wait until you read about that one.

--->Paul

Mark:

Do we need to use a tractor to pick rice in the fields. Sorry I could't help myself.

Charlie

EPA spokesman Cathy Milbourne says its health based-so is eating. I'm not a farmer, but grew up on a farm-you guys just keep making the dust-I'll just dust my plate off before sitting down to the dinner that came from your dusty fields-And by the way Thanks. Thinking my Farmall C would look funny with a catalytic converter.

Wait until starvation is running wild in the good ol USA. It is coming.

Mike:

Any realtion to the Gilbert's in New Britain, CT

Charlie, I figured needed its own topic. Folks here and elsewhere often live life with good intent while things happen in the dark of night without us knowin until after it happens and is too late. Kind of like a couple few years ago when OSHA tried to sneak through "handling ammunition by store employees to be an occupation hazard and banned" as a backdoor way of banning guns without actually banning guns, until they got caught and then claimed that it was "...an accidental oversite". Yeah, right.

This is a community. If I hear something at the barbershop or grain elevator or where ever that might be important to someone, I try to share it as a heads up. Kind of appreciate others doing the same.

Thanks Charlie, and other family members.

Mark

Mark:

To often people get upset and call radio programs and ask what the few are doing to fix the problems of the many. As you already know, each one of us must take the sometimes uncomfortable initiative to speak up and say enough. Keep up the good work.

God Bless.

Charlie

Mark:

To often people get upset and call radio programs and ask what the few are doing to fix the problems of the many. As you already know, each one of us must take the sometimes uncomfortable initiative to speak up and say enough. Keep up the good work.

God Bless.

Charlie

maybe next they can do something about those guys sawing concrete in the middle of the street or maybe pass an ordinance outlawing breaking wind on busses and airplanes. That would really help things greatly. (sic)

I can see stopping the dumping of mercury into our rivers and streams but how are they going to limit dust from grain havesting when the grain has to be combined dry and that means dust. Try baling hay without dust. How about making health care affordable so that if you"ve got bronchitis or alergies you can see a doc and get treated for it. How about teaching people to use common sense when doing outdoor jobs.
Try harrowing a field when the soil is so moist it doesn"t make dust. Guess what. forget that.
Try planting sudan in clay without it being bone dry. It won"t grow.

Just think, some farmers get MANURE on their tires!

Looks like to me this ridiculous stuff is just to keep us busy so we wont notice the other things they are doing. Personally I am to busy trying to hold on to my house and feed my family to keep up with whats going on in Washington. I Believe they want us all to be in that position.
Ron

Think you've got problems, try owning a mine in Carrboro, NC. The guys place has been there for well over 40 years and the town has slowly grown around him. He still farms the acerage that isn't being mined and has a beneficial fill going on on the mined out part, so he more than meets the Federal regs for land reclimation. The whole place is a haven for animals and insects. On a given day it's not unusual to see deer, hawks, ducks, geese, turtles, ground hogs, and a host of other animals, along with a huge variety of insects. Heck for the first time in 41 years I saw a 'false hummingbird' moth(which is very unusual in these parts based on my internet search to see what the critter was) the other day drinking out of one of the springs that's trying to fill the place in. Basically he runs a clean operation and the area wildlife loves their little 40 acre haven in the middle of surberbia.

According to the locals though he's polluting the ground water, causing it to rise or lower depending on their mood, somehow polluting the air, making too much noise, etc. Basically you name it and the "locals" find some reason to call and say they don't like what's being done. Funny thing is he takes in fill from area government projects and provides gravel for fill those same projects, and has even had the folks that call to turn him in for something come over asking for him to cut them a good deal on the gravel.

In the end I think much of what's happening with things like this deal with the dust and with what this guy is goign through is that people have simply forgotten where their food and 'shelter' comes from. If it ain't clean or pretty they don't want the hassel, just the benefits. Sadly I think until they go hungry or homeless for awhile they are never gonna appreciate it.

if there are no farmers there are no people
who would grow there food

It all amounts to paying for government programs. The carbon tax will not stop more carbon being used, it will pay for the government. The dust you create, and the permits you need will all go to paying for whatever your government seems fit. You will never stop all the dust when you farm. What about driving down a gravel road, how will you stop that?
Besides, if you do the research, a lot of the dust that makes it to North America actually comes from the deserts of Africa. Look it up.

Do you think some farmers get Manure on their lips ??

Give humans a challenge and they will find a way to overcome it. I'm sure we can find ways to reduce dust. People working in woodworking shops now have all kinds of dust reducing methods.

Maybe the combine will have a cyclone on it with the dust dropping out onto the ground from very close so it doesn't get stirred up. who knows.

I heard about the dust issue a couple of years ago out in WA or OR on the radio when I was out there. I've since said something about it to some people they thought I was crazy.

Done that too.

Should do like the big oil companies and spend billions looking for ways to keep the dust down when planting. Get goverment money and turn around and charge everyone more for the produce. If the tax payer wants no dust they should help pay not the farmer.

Just as they did to other industries and small businesses, regulate us out of business.

Those EPA holes don't know where their food comes from.

(quoted from post at 03:36:56 05/05/09) if there are no farmers there are no people
who would grow there food

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Silly rabbit, Didn't you know... Food comes from the supermarket of course... :roll:

Made some dust last night... felt good, smelled good... was good for my heart and my soul... Sweet corn going in the ground later today and in about 75 days it'll taste good... :?

Our Borough passed a law shutting off outside burning! Amazing how so many fireplace/chimneys smoke smells like garbage, or burning paper!
Being in the fire company, one neighbor asked how he could burn outside, without the cops seeing the smoke. I told him to burn at night--they won't see the smoke!
We even have to buy a $10 permit, to have a camp-fire for the kids, and the Fire Company has to check out the site first! Not my idea of freedom!
And now, the Big O is reaching further and further into our pockets, and making a good job of up-setting the apple-cart, in everything we do.
Pretty soon, Deepest Africa will be in better shape than us! I think O took lessons from Robert Mugabe, on how to bankrupt the country!

a little dirt never hurt

and in my hair and ears. Cow manure tastes like cooked spinach, pig manure more like black licorice. I don't care for either, hasn't killed me though.

Mark

Wayne, I couldn't agree more. I give it folks daily. "What, do you think the market deli makes them eggs? Maybe grows bread and meat on trees out back?". I give it to them.

My heart goes out to that mine fella. He's a necessary evil like the trash guy. Everyone needs him, no one wants him around.

Electrical power is a problem. We all need it, nobody wants a plant near them, especially coal or nuclear. A couple of years ago, a county over some company came in and wanted to put in a coal gasification power plant. If you go to the Dept. of Energy and look it up, coal gasification is closer to nuclear fission than burning raw coal, which doesn't happen. The coal is broken down into 3 components, one being gas to power turbins, a biproduct of hydrogen that could be used those little 4 wheeled Hindenbergs they want us to abandon our pickups for, and I forget the 3rd component, also a usefull biproduct. But it comes from coal, evil coal and thats all that anyone needs to hear. That county held hearings on the proposed plant where folks came in and held up their babies, shaking them and making them cry, yelling "Our babies will be harmed by that evil coal". The county board took a vote banning it, and I'll never forget the board president saying, "I don't know anything about coal gasification, but since it involves coal, its got to be bad". What an idiot. Afterwards, the local news media that ginned up the fearful stories approached the company spokesman and asked what the other local area location was planned since he'd mentioned that they were looking at another area just over the stateline, ans his response was priceless, "Why, so you can run up there and scare the he.. out of them as well? We're not devulging that information at this time".

Yep, everyone wants and needs the product, just not anywhere in sight...like the Kennedy's getting that wind farm banned 60 miles off of the coast of Nantuckett that would've needed binoculars to almost see if tried real, real hard to see it.

Mark

I used to run a "chickenbine" as a night job. I can add to your list. Chicken spray taste like salty corn flakes that have gotten soaked in sour milk, in case you were wander'n.

Dave