Quick and tuff pasture grass???

Anonymous-0 · Feb 6, 2009

Do the three fit into the same sentence?
I've got one piece that is about 1/4 acre that gets a good bit of traffic from a couple of horses and my tractor. It was a planted in wheat for several (probably many) years before we got it and planted a pasture mix on it. Anyway, didn't pan out real well because I kept the horses on it last winter and driving over it with tractor and round bale done a number.
feed value isn't really important in this area because it is young horses that have constant hay and get fed twice a day. Anything that would be safe if they eat it and be tough enough for traffic? Since it was a plowed field for so long, do I need to look at rolling it or something or at least driving back and forth with my neighbors big a$$ tractor?

Thanks,

Dave

Bill(Wis) · Feb 6, 2009

Quack. Introduced by USDA as a "hardy grass". I wouldn't have recommended it before roundup. AKA "Quitch".

Bill(Wis) · Feb 6, 2009

Dave, I didn't know you lived in Florida until reading post below. I don't know if quack will take in FL but it will grow on cement walls in Wis with roots 12 feet long. Maybe check with your county FSA.

Anonymous-0 · Feb 6, 2009

I'm in Germany.... I have to take your recommendation, translate it (or find the latin name), and see if it's available here.

Thanks, Dave

hayray · Feb 6, 2009

Hay DAve, you need to get a turf type grass for like gold courses and lawns rather then a bunchgrass like orchard and timothy or a sod forming like brome, the growth points are just too high. Kentucky Bluegrass might be an option, something with low growth points. But anything that gets a lot of traffic like that may not do real well.

Anonymous-0 · Feb 6, 2009

From what I have seen, it won't matter what you plant, the hay burners aka feed bills will pull it all up anyhow and you won't have nothing but dirt again. I've not seen a smaller area like that yet that they won't kill it out. NOthing but a feed bill and hay burners, you might can tell I'm not a big horse fan, I get real sick of hearing the phrase "you got any good horse hay", sorry just on a rant, I really dont have anything against the animal, just nothing for them either.

hayray · Feb 6, 2009

Dave, do you live in Florida and Germany?

Anonymous-0 · Feb 6, 2009

(quoted from post at 05:19:29 02/06/09) Dave, do you live in Florida and Germany?

No, been to Florida a couple of times on vacation but I don't think I could live there (humidity). From OH but been here for the last 20.

Dave

caterpillar guy · Feb 6, 2009

If it is in the runway for getting through the gate, or travel to and from the waterer nothing will root and stay. Best thing you can do is change the route you drive and try to make as few a trips as you can. I wouldn"t wish Quackgrass or Johnson grass on anyone even an enemy.

Kirk Grau · Feb 6, 2009

Have a few horses here as well. Sounds like it will be tough to keep anything growing there. I would not look at Quack Grass if it is what I am thinking of. It certainly is tough, but would over run the pasture pretty soon.

Don't know the layout of your pasture, but we usually keep a "sacrifice" area in pastures around here. Small fenced space usually near the gates/waterer/feed area. Then when the fields are soft/muddy/etc. we can keep the horses off of them. Also has benefits if you need to keep one confined for any reason. Also gets used when the farrier or vet comes so we can keep the other horses off of him. I like to keep stone dust in mine, but many are just mud patches. YMMV, but just another thought.

Kirk

Anonymous-0 · Feb 6, 2009

Wet times are pretty long here. I appreciate the comments on the quack grass because I already found what it is called here and was going to check with a local feed store to try and get it (woulda looked like a real a$$

).

There are actually 2 places we have that are like this and both have confinement areas that are paved, just hate to keep them locked in. Most horses here don't see the outside of a stall unless they are being ridden/worked so I really don't have to feel bad. I'll try to control it a little better this year and see what happens.

Dave

Traditional Farmer · Feb 6, 2009

One horse will destroy all vegetation on a quarter acre except for maybe Poke Berries and
Cockle Burr

bc · Feb 6, 2009

I'm going to throw out some brome seed in my corral. The pasture is brome and the corral has been full of brome but as of late gets eaten down to where it is sparce and the weeds take over. My horses and burros eat weeds too.

It's an experiment and may be a waste of a few bucks but never know till I try. Some of the old brome should still come up. Just want to try to choke out some weeds.

jose bagge · Feb 6, 2009

I need some of the same miracle grass. There is nothing so forlorn looking as a Virgina horse farm in the winter...pastures look like fresh plowed feilds right now. what the horses don't chew on they stomp down.
Most of it has grown back in previous years-

Nancy Howell · Feb 6, 2009

Check with your local ag agent. He should be able to recommend some varieties for you.

Anonymous-0 · Feb 6, 2009

(quoted from post at 11:21:21 02/06/09) I need some of the same miracle grass. There is nothing so forlorn looking as a Virgina horse farm in the winter...pastures look like fresh plowed feilds right now. what the horses don't chew on they stomp down.
Most of it has grown back in previous years-

Ours grows back also, we've got 12 pieces between 1/2-1 acre rented and can't let them get bad. The two we own catch the h$ll in winter. We could keep the horses in the stall but don't believe in having growing youngsters and pregnant mares confined. The biggest problem is every piece is next to a road or walking trail and the local experts go by and see poor neglected horses and start whining to whoever will listen. The ones that are out all have a paved area attached to a runin shed about 5 times the required size, we just leave the gate open and let them come and go as they please and clean hooves morning and evening. Just picked up a couple more acres ould be able to let these two rest until fall.

Dave

Anonymous-0 · Feb 6, 2009

(quoted from post at 12:09:20 02/06/09) Check with your local ag agent. He should be able to recommend some varieties for you.

I will.just easier sometimes to get the info here and translate it so I know a little of what I'm talking about when I get there. The local guy is kind of a punk and gets a little disrespectful if he thinks he's doing you a favor. We had a come to Jesus episode last year so I usually go to the next town unless I know exactly what I want and can get it and walk out.

Dave

Anonymous-0 · Feb 6, 2009

you will never see johnson grass growing in a pasture unless it gets heady before they find it.'they willeat it as fast as they find it, and it wont hurt them, actually has some protein

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