Anonymous-0
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I saw some 1/2 in ply wood in a dumpster, I sure could use some of that. Is it a crime or stealing if I took it out of the dumpster? I sure hate to see some usable lumber and material go to the dump.
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Anonymous-0
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Throwing it away was the crime........ I'd be loading it up. If there is someone there to ask (owner of the dumpster) it may be a good idea to get the trespassing piece out of the way.
Good luck.
Dave
Good luck.
Dave
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It is a crime. At least in Indiana, its theft. D felony to be exact.
Anonymous-0
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I work on a Military installation and a buddy of mine runs the recycle/environmental center. I was getting ready to go to the local sawmill and get stuff to build a couple of stalls and was unloading some junk out of my truck. Saw a couple of 4x4's sticking out of the wood dumpster and asked for them. He took me around the building to a trailer that had about 30 12' 4x4's a bunch of 4x6 and 6x6 12 and 14 feet, and about 160 sheets of plywood and asked how many I wanted. I was just joking and said all of it and he laughed and walked off. Figured I'd screwed that one up, so went back to the dumpster to dive a little. He came out and tossed me a key and said have the trailer back Monday morning. Been 4 years and I'm still using plywood.....
Anonymous-0
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In my home town we call it recreation at it's best.
I was told a DNR dude came around and was trying to to find a home for larger alotments of scrap from factories, and form a link so the landfills would not get so full. And just when we assumed they were all dumb butttts, they do something like that.
I was told a DNR dude came around and was trying to to find a home for larger alotments of scrap from factories, and form a link so the landfills would not get so full. And just when we assumed they were all dumb butttts, they do something like that.
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By Jim Shilander (Created: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 10:02 AM EST)
ANGOLA — A 42-year-old Angola man was charged with two felony counts Monday after police allegedly discovered methamphetamine during a search of his vehicle early Saturday morning.
Michael David Robbins was charged with Class B felony possession of methamphetamine, which carries a sentence of up to 20 years in jail, and Class D felony theft, which carries a maximum three-year sentence. He was being held at the Steuben County Jail pending a $60,000 bail. Robbins was also charged with four misdemeanor counts of purchasing of ephedrine or pseuoephephedrine, a precursor to methamphetamine production.
A probable cause affidavit filed by a Hamilton Deputy Marshal stated that while on patrol on the 7500 block of Homestead Drive, he noticed a truck allegedly parked near a dumpster at a business. Patterson allegedly saw a man, later identified as Robbins, loading scrap metal into the truck. When questioned, Robbins allegedly said he had been told by a friend from Sturgis, Mich., that it was OK for him to take some of the scrap. A manager at the business told police no one, that he knew of, was authorized to pick up the scrap.
During an inventory of Robbin’s vehicle, Patterson allegedly discovered a number of items, including packages of watch batteries and a number of loose AA and AAA batteries, along with drug paraphernalia. Upon later inspection, officers allegedly discovered a number of baggies which contained a white powder which tested positive for methamphetamine.
When asked about the substance found in the baggies, Robbins allegedly said, “I don’t know anything about it.” When asked why he’d come so late to pick up the metal, Robbins allegedly told officers he didn’t want to bother anyone.
A number of other items from Robbins’ truck were seized in connection with unrelated cases, court documents said.
ANGOLA — A 42-year-old Angola man was charged with two felony counts Monday after police allegedly discovered methamphetamine during a search of his vehicle early Saturday morning.
Michael David Robbins was charged with Class B felony possession of methamphetamine, which carries a sentence of up to 20 years in jail, and Class D felony theft, which carries a maximum three-year sentence. He was being held at the Steuben County Jail pending a $60,000 bail. Robbins was also charged with four misdemeanor counts of purchasing of ephedrine or pseuoephephedrine, a precursor to methamphetamine production.
A probable cause affidavit filed by a Hamilton Deputy Marshal stated that while on patrol on the 7500 block of Homestead Drive, he noticed a truck allegedly parked near a dumpster at a business. Patterson allegedly saw a man, later identified as Robbins, loading scrap metal into the truck. When questioned, Robbins allegedly said he had been told by a friend from Sturgis, Mich., that it was OK for him to take some of the scrap. A manager at the business told police no one, that he knew of, was authorized to pick up the scrap.
During an inventory of Robbin’s vehicle, Patterson allegedly discovered a number of items, including packages of watch batteries and a number of loose AA and AAA batteries, along with drug paraphernalia. Upon later inspection, officers allegedly discovered a number of baggies which contained a white powder which tested positive for methamphetamine.
When asked about the substance found in the baggies, Robbins allegedly said, “I don’t know anything about it.” When asked why he’d come so late to pick up the metal, Robbins allegedly told officers he didn’t want to bother anyone.
A number of other items from Robbins’ truck were seized in connection with unrelated cases, court documents said.
Anonymous-0
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Where I worked, before I retired, the company had a policy nothing can be taken home by any employee. I saw a lot of good things I could have used again go out with the trash truck.The company did have auctions now and then where the employees could purchase items. What if you see a 12 in cresent in the road? Do you leave it, or pick it up? Is that stealing? It did belong to someone. Stan
farmer boy
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I would ask them if you could have it. They gotta pay for that dumpster to be emptied so the longer it takes to get filled up the better. Better yet become friends with him and see if you can get first say on other scrap material. They'll throw away some pretty good stuff becasue they have no other way to deal with it.
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If its in "plain view" that is an exception to the warrant. The second thing is a consent to search, which gives an exception to the expectation of privacy.
Anonymous-0
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has anyone gone to jail for taking plywood out of a dumpster?
Anonymous-0
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Dave2,
I would not share your story with anyone. Both you and your buddy at the recycle center could quickly be unemployed and fighting felony charges of theft of government property. More than a few folks have been down similar road for "diving" on military installations.
Just a friendly word of advice.
Air Force Officer
I would not share your story with anyone. Both you and your buddy at the recycle center could quickly be unemployed and fighting felony charges of theft of government property. More than a few folks have been down similar road for "diving" on military installations.
Just a friendly word of advice.
Air Force Officer
Anonymous-0
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I suppose, technically, it is still their's because they hired the dumpster although they are throwing it out, I think I would ask them.
Anonymous-0
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That's exactly what I told him and left that trailer setting right where it was and bought a sheet of plywood on the way home. :roll: :roll:
Anonymous-0
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I build homes for a living and have dumpsters on the site for each one. It doesn't bother me to see someone in there looking for stuff that I had no longer needed. Sometimes folks will stop and ask for lumber scraps for camp fires and I'll set it aside for them if they want a bunch. What really gets me though is the people that think it is for public trash disposal. I have gone through their deposits and found names that they left on envelopes or junk mail. I'll knock on the door and tell them to have it out by the next morning or I'm calling the sheriff. It's always gone the next day.
Michael Soldan
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There's a lot of information here this morning. From what I understand, garbage at the curbside is abandoned property, police often use that tenent to extract evidence from crime scenes or suspects.
I leave scrap metal on the curbside with the expectation that someone will stop and get it. Last fall I cleaned out my garage and two sheds, I had around 600 pounds of old rims, rotors, steel cabinet,lawnmower and snowmobile engines etc..it was gone in a couple of hours...it did me a favour and gave some scrapper a few bucks for hauling it away. It was not worth my time or fuel to load it up and take it into the city to a recycler...on the other hand a bin at a business that has scrap metal is a different story, that business likely has a contract with a recycler to recieve so much a ton for the scrap picked up, in return the recycler provides a bin and pick up so going there is a no no! I would ask if I saw something in a dumpster at a business..sitting on the curb for pick up, I might just grab it..it was put out to be taken away.
We are on a Blue Box programme here and people used to go through blue boxes at night and pick out the aluminum cans, we have depostit on whiskey wine and spirit bottles, garbage pickers used to take any that were put out in the blue box. The Recyclers got real upset that their profit margin was shrinking because these valuable commodities were being pilfered out of the blue boxes. I believe that now the local police will stop you if they see you going through blue boxes..don't know if they charge you, likely warn you and run you off. If its in a blue box I wouldn't touch it, if its a pile of refuse and I saw something I wanted I may grab it..but that sure doesn't happen very much.
I leave scrap metal on the curbside with the expectation that someone will stop and get it. Last fall I cleaned out my garage and two sheds, I had around 600 pounds of old rims, rotors, steel cabinet,lawnmower and snowmobile engines etc..it was gone in a couple of hours...it did me a favour and gave some scrapper a few bucks for hauling it away. It was not worth my time or fuel to load it up and take it into the city to a recycler...on the other hand a bin at a business that has scrap metal is a different story, that business likely has a contract with a recycler to recieve so much a ton for the scrap picked up, in return the recycler provides a bin and pick up so going there is a no no! I would ask if I saw something in a dumpster at a business..sitting on the curb for pick up, I might just grab it..it was put out to be taken away.
We are on a Blue Box programme here and people used to go through blue boxes at night and pick out the aluminum cans, we have depostit on whiskey wine and spirit bottles, garbage pickers used to take any that were put out in the blue box. The Recyclers got real upset that their profit margin was shrinking because these valuable commodities were being pilfered out of the blue boxes. I believe that now the local police will stop you if they see you going through blue boxes..don't know if they charge you, likely warn you and run you off. If its in a blue box I wouldn't touch it, if its a pile of refuse and I saw something I wanted I may grab it..but that sure doesn't happen very much.
Wesley Stephens
Member
We used to have county dumpsters at various locations, but people from other counties were dumping in them at our expense, so our county switched to manned collection sites where the trash is sorted to an extent. They have little shelters there where you can put stuff that may be of some use and people are allowed to take it. I think the powers that be around here feel like anything someone takes and uses benefits the person who gets it and the taxpayers because it is that much less we have to pay to get rid of. People used to get stuff out of the old dumpsters all the time with no problem, but I think there was technically an ordinance against it for liability reasons.
RandyB(MI)
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YES YES YES>>> It belongs to the company or person who put it there until the dumpster co. takes it, then it belongs to them. Many people may have second thoughts about what they threw out or the husband may come home to find his wife inadvertantly threw out something of his and go out to retreive it only to find you taking it for yourself. Some dumpster co.'s sort through refuse and save the recyclables to sell(which would include lumber). So you see , YOU WOULD BE STEALING TO DO THIS!!! A lot of landfills have recycling picking stations where the "trash" is sorted and recycled (SOLD) to help fund the equipment. That piec e of lumber wasn't going to just be buried. It was going to help pay for the operation. SO , if you took it , you stoled it!
RandyB(MI)
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YES YES YES>>> It belongs to the company or person who put it there until the dumpster co. takes it, then it belongs to them. Many people may have second thoughts about what they threw out or the husband may come home to find his wife inadvertantly threw out something of his and go out to retreive it only to find you taking it for yourself. Some dumpster co.'s sort through refuse and save the recyclables to sell(which would include lumber). So you see , YOU WOULD BE STEALING TO DO THIS!!! A lot of landfills have recycling picking stations where the "trash" is sorted and recycled (SOLD) to help fund the equipment. That piec e of lumber wasn't going to just be buried. It was going to help pay for the operation. SO , if you took it , you stoled it!
RandyB(MI)
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YES YES YES>>> It belongs to the company or person who put it there until the dumpster co. takes it, then it belongs to them. Many people may have second thoughts about what they threw out or the husband may come home to find his wife inadvertantly threw out something of his and go out to retreive it only to find you taking it for yourself. Some dumpster co.'s sort through refuse and save the recyclables to sell(which would include lumber). So you see , YOU WOULD BE STEALING TO DO THIS!!! A lot of landfills have recycling picking stations where the "trash" is sorted and recycled (SOLD) to help fund the equipment. That piec e of lumber wasn't going to just be buried. It was going to help pay for the operation. SO , if you took it , you stoled it!
RandyB(MI)
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sorry about that triple. must have had a brain fart!
Anonymous-0
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Once it hit's the dumpster it's fair game. It then offically belongs to whoever owns the dumpster. I used to drive a roll-off truck and I got a lot of good usable lumber. Most people don't care if you take it, that's less weight for them have to pay to dump at the landfill.
must have had a brain fart
Ya, what you told him. Goes to fund the operation after the workers carry off the best stuff. They crush the rest here, freezer, refrigerators would be good storage, cheap metal for projects, but I bet they don't want the liability of having a store.
Ya, what you told him. Goes to fund the operation after the workers carry off the best stuff. They crush the rest here, freezer, refrigerators would be good storage, cheap metal for projects, but I bet they don't want the liability of having a store.
tractormiallis
Member
Just be careful, dont go back repeatedly for you might look suspicious. Grab the wood stuff you want and be gone. Technically you are stealing someones stuff, yes a lot does just get dumped in the landfill, technically you are trespassing by dumpster diving.
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