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What are some pros and cons of this tractor? My buddies dad has one and he said it runs out well, good strong old tractor. I will be discin with a 12ft JD bwa disc, no till beans with probably 10 ft drill from co op, cuttin hay with JD 1209 MoCo, rakin with NH 55, and balin with MF 12 and MF 1560, and bale pickin with NH 1010. I figure this tractor will be fine for all that and its got a loader with bale spike. Its got good paint been undercover for a long while and he"s gettin into the engine because he said its got low oil pressure and its on the winter list to fix up. So pros and cons? Personal experiences? Sorry for the lengthy post boys!!! Thanks for the advice on all these tractors this will be my first big purchase minus my equipment, Im almost 20 and do about 300 acres of hay and 40 acres of beans.
 
1650-1655 are probaly the best tractors oliver built. if he is going to rebuild the engine before you buy it make sure he uses 1 piece wrist pin bushings. Also are we talking gas or diesel? I myself have a 1650 Diesel. Email is open.
 
I have a 1655 diesel. These are 65-70 horse tractors using a 6 cylinder motor. That makes them strong a smooth running; todays tractors of that size use 4 cylinder motors.
I use mine on a 7 foot bushhog, 4 row no-til planter and general light farm work. For disc size depending on how heavy the disc is she'll pull a 12 foot, probably grunt a little. Mine is not working at all with the heavy 7 foot bushhog. I would use it with a 6 or 8 row no-til planter without question.
Another plus is that when White switched the Oliver line to White badging the only thing they changed was the sheet metal. The parts for a white 2-70 fit this tractor. That means the tractor was made through at least 1975.
All that being said.
It will have power steering and manual brakes.
The top link of the 3 point is unique. You cannot run a post hole digger without some special juryrigging.
You will also notice the length of the hood when you start using the tractor close to the house--and you will. It is a handy tractor.
A few 1650s had the 3 speed hydromatic. Does this one or is it the 2 speed. All the later built tractors had 3 speeds.
 
I have a wheatland 1650 Diesel that I really like.I use it to pull a 10ft bush hog,NH 851 round baler and feed with in the Winter.Do have to plug in the engine heater in cold weather to make it start easy
 
Great tractor. Plenty of parts still around if you know where to look. I had a 1650, have a 1655 now.
 
Have 1650's in gas and diesel.Can't think of any cons.Well made,very dependable.

Use it to cut hay with a PT-10,bale with a JD14T,rake with a 5 wheeler,yard work,auger work,etc,etc and never fails.
 
Going to need good rear rubber and probably duals for the no-till drill. Hopefully, it has two remote hydraulic valves. Really would like to see you go up 10 more hp. Are you looking at a specific 1650 or is this general discussion? 3 speed over/under would be highly desirable.
The above issues aside, the 1650's were pretty good in their day.
 
Great tractor,is it gas or diesel? i have a gas 1650,good chore tractor,always starts no matter how cold. If it is a gas i would strongly recomend converting it to electronic ignition,you wouldn't believe what a difference that makes.
 
Does it have Hydra-power drive (2-speed) or Over/under Hydraul shift (3-speed) auxiliary transmission?
If it is a diesel, is it the early style or late style..the earlier one had prechambers, while the later ones had direct injection.
 
Now you're talking. Excellent tractor. Just check the hydra power for leaks or slips. No other downside that I can think of.
 
This tractor is diesel, Its my friends dads tractor and has been sittin undercover for a long while will be a huge upgrade from last years POS IH 706. Wasnt a bad tractor just shifted hard and didnt look one bit good. I will have to check what kind of transmission this has on it, as the only time ive been on it was when i was sittin on it messin around. Dont know how many hydro outlets it has on it but it does have a loader.
 
A couple more questions. Is the friend's 1650 come fixed for the 4600 - 4800 dollars or as is ? Is the 706 under your control that if you fix the shift, you have long term use of the tractor? Is the 706 diesel that you have good fuel economy per acre? I think the work load for a season would make a diesel far preferable.
Are you under pressure to get your own tractor?
Sometimes not doing business with a friend is the best way to preserve a friendship.
If you could get by this season without making a move, would you have more money to do something different? Think long and hard about this.
 
I've got a 1600 gas. Great tractor, and overhauled with larger 3 3/4 pistons like the 1650 and 55's already have. Lots of power for what's supposed to be maybe a 60-65 horse tractor. I figure mine puts out a strong 70 HP. Don't know how it'll pull the no-till, but all the rest it should handle well.

If it doesn't have 2 remotes out the back, all ya should have to do is install the hoses and couplers. The 2nd valve should already be there as long as it has hydraulics.

A deisel engine would be prefered, gassers can be kinda thirsty.

Overall the 1600/1650/1655 are great tractors.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
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