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olgentdc

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Noting all Hard start cold weather problems lately ,
I have learned There are some tractors I will add to fuel as much as 10% gasoline, Yanmar ,is one for sure ,, seems to start better and runout and power up better in all this cold ,, My neighbor has added a small amount of gas to his 4020 he feeds with ,I resist doing that to my 4020, Have added gas to the 430 Case diesel as an anti-gel measure ,. here in Beautiful Southern Indiana the temps do not stay unGodly cold too long .. trouble is ,, If I were running a tractor treated with gas All day long I certainly would dilute with 100%diesel Fuel filled to the top ,... gasoline in a Diesel makes me Nervous. And I feel My neighbors and brothers and I have been playing with fire in our Trial and ERROR DESPERATION . I wish someone could tell me enuf about the dos and donts that can make me relax with confidence
thankfully My Cummins Dodge is so dependable and reliable I have never added gas .Only time I would consider such a practice unless on a trip in -20 temps, to prevent gelling . just Thinking <..>Jim
 
No doubt all stations are selling winterized fuel in My area ,, And I seldom have fuel that has aged over 3 monthes from inactivity ,The extreme COLD has presented abnormal problems ... the Ya_wnmar seems to be my problem child this winter and since it is daily runner , It gets fresh fuel weekly .........
 
I would never put any gasoline in any of my diesels!!!!!! If I need antigel I use power service or if super cold 911 made by the same co. I also mix power service in my furnace fuel tank. Armand
 
I have been running gas mixed with diesel in my tractors for years and I have never had a problem. I also run gas in my diesel truck until the temps get down to around 0 then I switch to Power Service Antigel additive. My truck is a 2001 dodge Cummins and I run around 5000 miles a month year round. I mix it about 15% and the truck seems to run just a bit smoother and seems to have a bit more power.
 
Kerosene is a safe additive if you stay off highways.most kerosene has red dye in it.Out side fuel tanks for furnaces use a blend of fuel oil and kerosene.The IRS has agents stopping oil delivery trucks here looking for red fuel.One fellow I know got stopped by an agent who insisted on checking his tank.He had to remind the agent that his truck was a gas job.
 
whats so hard to understand. 60/40 or 70/30 blend of #2 and #1 fuel will work in the coldest of temps. also remember add isopropel to take care of water. thats all you need to know for winter deiseling.
 
Everyone here talks about buying winter blend fuels. If you get your fuel at a truck stop or corner gas station, how do you know what you have put in your tank??? I see semis up and down the road every time the temp is below 10* with "fuel" problems.
I use Stanadyne additive with EVERY fill up after the first of December and have no problems. My cost for the complete winter of additives is about the same as one service call.
Wednesday it was -22* here and I was confident I would have no problems, yet I saw others who did.
 
The fuel companies already blend fuel for your area. Another words if you live in GA it will be blended for those temps,if you live in ND it will be blended for there. Now from there all the fuel might not have gotten sold and the latest fuel blend dropped yet. So if you buy from a place that has a brisk fuel sales it will help reduce the issues of froze fuel. To prove this point the times I have froze up are only when I don't change my fuel filters or went to the deep south( FL,MS,South TX) then come north to(MI,MN,ME) then I will have trouble unless I buy fuel as I come back north. Like If I go to FL then come home to MI I buy fuel in TN or southern OH then MI as i burn it out and add fuel the blend gets adjusted for the area. Now I have been home for a week and the truck has sat so yesterday I looked in the tanks sure enough The glazed doughnut frosting look. I will take a heater and blow under it then away I'll go. Once running the engine should return enough fuel to keep from freezing.
 
j heitkemper: I think one of the problems with tractors, especially tractors that don't run much in winter, the active ingrediant in all these additives (Methyl Hydrate) evaporates from the tank in a few days, then you have no gelling or freezing protection.

I know when I farmed, my forestry skidder went every day all day, and wasn't near the problem tractors were only being started ocasionally The MH will stay in filters, lines and pump, but evaporate from tank in a few days. You add 20cc of MH in a 30 gallon tank of a tractor that has been parked two weeks, before you start it, that will eliminate the problem. Bear in mind I dealt with -20F to -35F every day, all winter, during my working years. We were also starting diesels, miles from any electricity, they had to go, it was our income.
 
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