Thanks to all the folks that helped with my saga a few weeks ago. I have got both of them running good and now am in the process of restoring the 3010. I rebuilt the carb and put a new muffler on it last weekend a drove it around for hours. It needs new tires which are going on in a few weeks. It had plenty of power to grind feed, which kind of surprised me. Well I guess the last question is, What is the lift compacity for the 3 point on the 3010 and the 4020. Both the manuals have not arrived yet. Thanks again for all the help. P.s. I got the 4020 dynoed at a local repair shop and they said that it was running about 96 hp., Is that reasonable, i heard it was only a 90 hp tractor from factory.