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How many of you have heard of 10 gauge shotgun shells? That
are 2 7/8? Does anyone still make? They are Western shotgun
shells. Thanks
 
Here in Georgia, there have been alot of 10 guages sold in the last few years for turkey hunters. Our local Walmart carries a small assortment of shells. I know that you can get some of the smaller shot (6,71/2 & 8 shots) on line.
 
I would love to get some short shells for my old double barrel 10, my son said they quit making the short ones several years ago & all you can get now is the long 3 1/2 shells.
 
Yep and my shoulder hasn't been the same since! It was a single shot lightweight 10 gauge goose gun they called it with a long barrel. Don't remember who made it but was most likely from the 50s and was the worst kicking thing I ever shot. Another guy smaller than me said I was a "girl" for complaining and he shot it next and it sat him on the ground and he walked around for the next couple hours rubbing his shoulder. Well he sure shut up! I have heard the old Damascus twist barreled guns are not safe to shoot with modern powder and can split or blow apart.
 
not only do i have 10 gauge shot shells, but a 10 gauge shot gun that my great grandfather used to kill one of the last buffalo in texas with. i would not dare use the gun now as it's a antique.
 
Hi Nicholaus,

I goose hunt with 10ga 3-1/2 and reload my own. I have a side x side 34" 10ga and a single shot 36" 10ga. My single shot is my bird gun as it more balanced than the side x side and is a pleasure too shoot. With the 36" barrel, I don't have too hurry my shot as it'll reach out there a looooonnnnng ways.

All my quick data charts don't list a 2-7/8" 10ga so it must be a old cartridge. they don't list the newer 4" 10ga either so that don't surprise me. 10ga reload data is hard to come by because of the no lead shot requirement of the Feds.

Cabela's is your most likely source for both reload components and factory loaded shells.

Next would suppliers for "cowboy action shooting" on the net. This would be a source for black powder data as well.

T_Bone
 
They are pretty old shells. At one time, probably before 1900 the 10 guage was as common as a 12 is now. But they used the shorter shells.
Things changed a lot after the advent of smokeless powder and things changed again after WW1. If you really want to know all there is about old shotguns check this out. These guys live and breathe this stuff. Very knowedgable.
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php
 
10 gauge 4", wow, that should really taka Giant Canada goose down. I shoot 12g 3-1/2" and some times wish I could have more bigger pellets in it,
 
When I was a kid dad ahad a couple of 10 gauge brass shells laying in a box. Don't know what happened to them.
 
I think I have a few of them in my collection of old gun stuff. Mine are loaded with smokeless powder.(paper shells) From back in the thirdies.
 
I have and use a Browning BPS 10 gauge 3 1/2 all the time. Somewhere kicking around in my reloading room I have some shorter 10 gauge shells, but I have never reloaded them as I load all my 3 1/2 and have never had any reason to use shorter shells.
 
think it was the model 5510 super goose gun with a 34" barrel,the 12 ga. was the model 55 goose gun with a 36" barrel.Both 3 shot bolt actions.Neither kicked as bad as a short barrel H&R single shot 10 ga. i own. bill m.
 
My grandfather had a 10 ga, mostly for goose hunting. Single shot sears, from the teens.
 
more of a gun enthusiast than a guru lol just pulling your chain but I have thought to ask you a question on guns based on your guru stat.
 
I used to test fire guns for a local gunsmith. One day he had me fire an H&R 10 ga. single shot full choke. It was a very light gun. When I touched it off it made a substantial impression on my shoulder. Hardest I was ever kicked by a shotgun. However it was mild compared to the .460 Wetherby Magnum, and Sharps 50-140 that I've also test fired.
Mr. Bob
 
Upon more thinking on the single shot "Mule" gun, I almost want to say it was made or sold by by Western Auto. It was a cheap one for sure, but it did shoot, but mostly kicked the crud out of you. The guy who owned it wouldn't shoot it more than 3 times in a day. Dang thing didn't have a recoil pad and I am not sure if it would have helped much.
 
As was mentioned earlier, they once were common. A point to remember was that the old shotguns were designed to fire a paper shell and had a shorter chamber than current guns. Plastic shell have a longer chamber to allow the end to unfold. Firing plastic shells in the short chambered guns will give you a considerable kick and could be dangerous.
 
The 410 is not a guage it is a caliber .410 and is therefore .410 inches in diameter. The guage of a shotgun is determined by the number of balls of lead the diameter of the barrel which equal one pound of lead. There are also very large shotguns the largest I have heard of is 4 guage they are usually mounted and not hand held.
 
The reason I say Gun guru for the title is not because I am one but because a buddy of mine had called me that in the past cause I was able to name about 30 guns by name in an NRA magazine a few years ago. I am not an expert by any means, just a guy who likes guns, I own a few and I love the AR rifles, and I own a real nice Armalite. Also an NRA member. Plus typing Gun guru is faster then my full name which I wouldnt use on here.
 
(quoted from post at 14:25:07 12/28/08) The 410 is not a guage it is a caliber .410 and is therefore .410 inches in diameter. The guage of a shotgun is determined by the number of balls of lead the diameter of the barrel which equal one pound of lead. There are also very large shotguns the largest I have heard of is 4 guage they are usually mounted and not hand held.
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Are these 4 ga also known as "Punt Guns"? I saw one such gun fired on a Discovery Channel show...It was practically a crew served weapon.
 
yea I figured something like that but like I said just pulling your chain I am no GURU even by association or name calling have been called small block because of 350 chevy (small block) which is for a while the only engine I had around and was in the process of building 2. I would sit in the drivers room and read measurements and details on different cams and stroke options as well as head and carb. combos. I decided to purchase land in the middle of those engine builds and sold them. Wish I still had the 350 bored .30 over, decked and ready for the 4 barrel heads I was polishing.
 
I once aw a picture of a one gauge shotgun. It was mounted on a boat for shooting ducks and geese.

10 gage was very common in the 1980's when they banned lead in 12,16,20 gauge shotguns in my area. 10 gauge for some reason got more time and a lot of hunters switched to 10 gauge.
 
I believe the punt gun is typically a muzzle loaded black powder shotgun with a barrel diameter around 2 inches. The 4 guage (if my math is correct) would have a barrel diameter around 1.050 inches. A 12 guage has a diameter of .727 inches and a 10 guage a diameter of .774 inches.
 
(quoted from post at 03:13:21 12/29/08)
(quoted from post at 14:25:07 12/28/08) The 410 is not a guage it is a caliber .410 and is therefore .410 inches in diameter. The guage of a shotgun is determined by the number of balls of lead the diameter of the barrel which equal one pound of lead. There are also very large shotguns the largest I have heard of is 4 guage they are usually mounted and not hand held.
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Are these 4 ga also known as "Punt Guns"? I saw one such gun fired on a Discovery Channel show...It was practically a crew served weapon.
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Quite a few 4bore guns still in use for wildfowling in UK. 6bore not quite so common, but lots & lots of 8bores still around. People reload commercial boiler cleaning 8bore cartridges, since I think only one company still produce 8bore cartridges.
10bores becoming more common since the nonsense about not using lead shot. Since steel is so poor in normal loads, the 10bore has made a bit of a come back here.

Some 4 bores were made to double as punt guns (6 bores too) but most were shoulder fired.

Punt guns tend to be 2bore up to about 1 1/2" diameter barrels, all new ones are made by engineer enthusiasts, but I bet the cost per shot of 6 or 12oz of tungsten or Hevishot tends to concentrate the mind a bit!!
 
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