I just recently aquired an old 1960's model John Deere 1010. It is very dificult to start, if not impossible at times. It's had a lot of work done to it lately.New wiring harnes, DELCO Distributer, new battery, etc. Would new Glow Plugs help...or is the problem likely something else.
- Thread starter Fin Carey
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DELCO Distributer??
Would new Glow Plugs help??
If its Diesel a new distributer isn't gonna help it.
If its Gas then Glow Plugs ain't gonna help it either.
So what do you heve? Gas or Diesel?
If it's Diesel, you need the owner's manual,(avail from JD), so you know the starting procedure.
They use "slow heating" glow plugs, not the quick ones like used on newer machines.
Glow plug times..
warm engine = 30 sec.
above 32f = 1 minute
32f to 0f = 2 minutes
below 0f = 3 minutes
and NEVER use either.
New glow plugs can be found on ebay for about $25 each, JD wants $100 each. They ARE the exact same plugs.
Would new Glow Plugs help??
If its Diesel a new distributer isn't gonna help it.
If its Gas then Glow Plugs ain't gonna help it either.
So what do you heve? Gas or Diesel?
If it's Diesel, you need the owner's manual,(avail from JD), so you know the starting procedure.
They use "slow heating" glow plugs, not the quick ones like used on newer machines.
Glow plug times..
warm engine = 30 sec.
above 32f = 1 minute
32f to 0f = 2 minutes
below 0f = 3 minutes
and NEVER use either.
New glow plugs can be found on ebay for about $25 each, JD wants $100 each. They ARE the exact same plugs.
Thank you, It is a Diesel. I do have the Owners Manual and I have been attempting the proper starting procedure, using the recommended glow plug warm-up time. I'm thinking either the glow plugs are bad or its something else entirely...I realy dont have a clue. I suppose I could try new ones and go from there.Thanks for the E-Bay tip.
The diesel 1010 was known for starting problems,even in warm weather.You can replace everything electrical and it will be the same.The later ones were improved a little with a different glow plug chamber.They quit making that engine very soon after a limited production of around 800 or so in the S (Standard) series.
1010 is a pretty good starting diesel when everything is right. In fact, it will outstart some later direct-injected Deeres if it is set-up correctly (as long as you let the glow-plugs heat and work the primer properly). Most aren't setup right anymore, especially now that they are almost 50 years old.
#1 it is an indirect-injected diesel - perhaps the only one Deere ever made in the USA (1010/2010 series). So, it must have working glow plugs. Wellman (WAP British) sells them for $20-$25 each.
OEM Deere plugs often cost twice that and they are cheap and made in China.
#2 it is the first Deere ever to use a rotary injection pump and early models don't pump enough fuel at cranking speed for good cold starting. That's what the hand-primer pump is for. If your 1010 doesn't have a working primer-pump, it's not going to start well in very cold temps.
New primer pumps are still available from Deere, but they cost a fortune. Seems it wouldn't be too hard to make one, or swap something else in there. Deere pump is AT15807 and cost over $500.
#1 it is an indirect-injected diesel - perhaps the only one Deere ever made in the USA (1010/2010 series). So, it must have working glow plugs. Wellman (WAP British) sells them for $20-$25 each.
OEM Deere plugs often cost twice that and they are cheap and made in China.
#2 it is the first Deere ever to use a rotary injection pump and early models don't pump enough fuel at cranking speed for good cold starting. That's what the hand-primer pump is for. If your 1010 doesn't have a working primer-pump, it's not going to start well in very cold temps.
New primer pumps are still available from Deere, but they cost a fortune. Seems it wouldn't be too hard to make one, or swap something else in there. Deere pump is AT15807 and cost over $500.
Wesley Stephens
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1010 John Deeres have a bad reputation in this area. My grandfather had a gas one a long time ago, but did not keep it long. He said the way the distributor was positioned caused it to get water in it all the time.
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