I don't know much about these discs.I bought a red colored two-row unit 3 point disc at the time we purchased our JD '56 420. Found them at a junk yard. Have been told their Ford discs but no tag is on them. The trouble I have is the discs keep pulling to the left and rubbing the inside tire of the tractor. How do I get them to stay behind the tractor? I've put a chain even around the axle but it doesn't work right.
- Thread starter Connie L
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Obviously something is wrong. Make sure the disks are lined up so they counter each other. If there are 10 discs 5 must be set up to cut to the right and 5 set up to cut to the left otherwise they will pull in the direction towards the cupped end of the disk. Maybe some one else has a suggestion but I have never had any experience with something like you are reporting.
Handyman
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Your tractor should have some sway blocks on it that would prevent the side to side movement of implements like you are describing. Either they are not adjusted correctly or they are missing from your tractor. You will find them down on either side of your tractors drawbar support and your draft bars will rub against them as they move up or down. They are just heavy steel castings that can be turned in for a narrow implement hitch or turned out for a wide implement hitch
BushogPapa
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Some adjustments have exactly the opposite effect that you would expect...are you sure you are going the "right way"..?
You can probably attach "sway-chains" to the lower links, to the drawbar for control..
greenbeanman in Kansas
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Connie L. the best way to post pictures is to use your computer to transfer them (upload) to a host site for photos like http://www.photobucket.com
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Best wishes for a solution.
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While you do have to register there is absolutely no cost and it is relatively easy to upload to their site.
Once you have placed your photo or photos there and finished any editing and titling you then use the image link they provide. Just use a copy and paste to make sure you get it correct.
Once copied you place it in YT below your message in the slot box called Optional Link URL:
You then give it a title and the link will automatically appear along with the text in your post. It is usually better to post such a link because so many use dial up access so embedded photos load slowly.
Best wishes for a solution.
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Shetland Sheepdog
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8) I have read thru this entire thread and have not seen any mention of checking your disc for level! 
To trail straight the disc must be level side to side and front to back when in working position! Side to side will be adjusted with the crank on the link from the rockshaft arm to the lower hitch arm. The front to back level will be adjusted with the top link. Hope that this helps.
Dave 8)
To trail straight the disc must be level side to side and front to back when in working position! Side to side will be adjusted with the crank on the link from the rockshaft arm to the lower hitch arm. The front to back level will be adjusted with the top link. Hope that this helps.Dave 8)
Janicholson
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I'll add to Shetland's idea that shortening the right lift link on the JD will lift the right side of the disk (the thing is called a disk harrow, (or just disk) if the right side is lifted, the left side will dig in more, causing it to move right.
Adjust some at firs, then a little at a time until it pulls straight. The rear "gang" of disks on the disk should be at almost the same depth as the front gang when in the ground working. Deeper or shallower on the rear gang to make the field smooth with out making a ridge, or leaving a groove.
The tires should not be allowed to touch the implement. There are chains on each side of the JD lift arms, Shorten these until the disk stays between the tires, and centered. It will always try to be off center if turning when the disk is down (OK to do if in a shallow correction turn, not at the end of the field. Keep us informed as to the solution. JimN
Adjust some at firs, then a little at a time until it pulls straight. The rear "gang" of disks on the disk should be at almost the same depth as the front gang when in the ground working. Deeper or shallower on the rear gang to make the field smooth with out making a ridge, or leaving a groove.
The tires should not be allowed to touch the implement. There are chains on each side of the JD lift arms, Shorten these until the disk stays between the tires, and centered. It will always try to be off center if turning when the disk is down (OK to do if in a shallow correction turn, not at the end of the field. Keep us informed as to the solution. JimN
Shetland Sheepdog
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kay, we have an offset disc here! I don't have any experience with them! I wonder if you moved the hitch frame to the center of the gang frame, would that help? I see that there are several holes in the gang frame and the hitch frame appears to be all the way to the left on top of the gang frame. Logic says to me that it might pull straighter if the hitch was centered. I also see that the gang angle can be adjusted to make the front gang cut less agressive and the rear more agressive.
If you center the hitch you may find that the disc pulls to the left. If this happens then you are at the point where you will need to "balance" the two adjustments! (gang angle and hitch position) Wow eh! Good luck, and keep us posted.
Dave 8)
Shetland Sheepdog
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Hi, it's me again! Don't bother to center the hitch! I had a brain cramp!! :roll: I thought that it was pulling right! Instead of moving your hitch frame, change the gang angle. The front gang is cutting more agressivly than the back gang which is pushing it to the left! I think that if you hit a happy medium it should trail straight. Swing the right side back a little or the left side ahead so that both front and rear have the same angle of cut. Sorry about the bad info on the last post, hope that this works for you. :wink: Dave 8)
You caught me after I centered the frame. After tightening the right chain it was slightly better and adjusted the height on the swing arms. Almost as bad..I had to hard counter-steer to try and make a somewhat straight line. I see what your referring to about the gang adjustment. I'll give it a try that next. I'll keep you informed, thanks.
JOE FARMER
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CONNIE YOU HAVE MOVED THE MOUNT THE WRONG WAY TRY MOVING BACK ONE SET OF BOLT HOLES TO THE RIGHT PAST THE CENTER ''OR WHERE THE PAINT IS FADDED FROM WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY SET AS IN YOUR PICS, UTL' THE LAST ONE POSTED' THINK OF IT AS TRYING TO GET IT TO LOOK AS IT 'THE FRONT GANG NEEDS TO BE STRIGHT TER LIKE U WERE GOING TO ROLL IT, THE FARTHER IT IS SHIFTED TO BEING PARALELL WITH YOUR DRAW BAR THE MORE PULL IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION YOULL HAVE ,, BET SHE REALLY DIGS AS SETUP NOW, I AM FINDING HARD TO COVEY WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY BUT I SEE WHATS WRONG, HOPE THIS HELPS ;;; KOBALT20042003@ YAHOO.COM, LET ME KNOW IF THIS WORKS, NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR 3PT
JOE FARMER
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COONIE READ MY REPLY DOWN TWARDS THE BOTTOM I DONT KNOW WHY IT ENDED UP THERE GOOD LUCK ;;I THINK THIS WILL FIX U RIGHT UP
JOE FARMER
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COONIE READ MY REPLY DOWN TWARDS THE BOTTOM I DONT KNOW WHY IT ENDED UP THERE GOOD LUCK ;;I THINK THIS WILL FIX U RIGHT UP
Shetland Sheepdog
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Do you still have the gang angle set as shown in this picture? If so, loosen the 2 bolts that hold the hitch to the top of the gangs and pull the right end of the gangs back and push the left end of the gangs ahead. Then re-tighten. this will put less cut on the front gang and more on the rear.
Dave
Chas Fergie-30
Member
Hi Connie,
I have the same set of Indusco offset discs model 201, that you have. Although you can slide the front gang and the rear gang independently and angle the set both left and right, there are a few combinations that work to help the discs pull straight. First, you should try to adjust the front and rear gang so that they don't cut in the same furrow. This helps offset the front gang pulling to the left by giving the rear gang some solid ground to pull to the right. Also, the more cut angle that you adjust the front gang to cut, the more down pressure you will need on the rear gang. This is accomplished by cranking the top adjustment to make it longer which allows the rear gang to contact the soil first. Here are pictures of my discs. Good luck and post your results.
Chas Fergie-30 CA
I have the same set of Indusco offset discs model 201, that you have. Although you can slide the front gang and the rear gang independently and angle the set both left and right, there are a few combinations that work to help the discs pull straight. First, you should try to adjust the front and rear gang so that they don't cut in the same furrow. This helps offset the front gang pulling to the left by giving the rear gang some solid ground to pull to the right. Also, the more cut angle that you adjust the front gang to cut, the more down pressure you will need on the rear gang. This is accomplished by cranking the top adjustment to make it longer which allows the rear gang to contact the soil first. Here are pictures of my discs. Good luck and post your results.
Chas Fergie-30 CA
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