OT Winchester vs. Marlin 30 - 30

KYfarm

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I'm gonna buy a 30 - 30, wanted one for awhile, think this is the time, here is my question.

I can get a used Winchester 94 anywhere from $449 to $899

I can get a new Marlin in the $300s

Is the Winchester really that much better of a gun?
 
I have not had a Marlin 30-30. Had a Marlin 35 cal, very nice gun I liked it.
I have had several assorted Marlins and liked all of them very well.
A littel Marlin .22 cal model 39d lever action is one of my favorite guns.
 
Have got one each; IMHO, the Marlin feels like a rifle and the Winchester is more like a BB gun. If you're looking at a Winchester made by Winchester, before the company was first sold, it may be different..........
 
i like my marlin, with scope, does the winchester still eject the spent shells straight up? instead of to the side
 
Winchester has had angle eject since the early 80's.

They are both good guns.

Some blow hards on here are going to tell you the marlin is worthless, some are going to tell you the winchester is worthless...they are all idiots.

They are both good guns, choose the one that fits you best (in the wallet and otherwise).
 
A winchester is more popular with collectors... I personally prefer the Marlin. Like it's side eject better than the angle eject on the Winchester, and think it has a better feel while I'm holding it.
 
I have to agree with the other guys. Neither one is bad. I have had both and the Marlin felt better to me. If you want collector value, the Winchester is the one you want.
 
Never had the pleasure of shooting a Winchester 30-30. Have shot the Marlin model and highly recommend it. Lots of bang for the buck.
 
(quoted from post at 20:02:46 11/05/08) I'm gonna buy a 30 - 30, wanted one for awhile, think this is the time, here is my question.

I can get a used Winchester 94 anywhere from $449 to $899

I can get a new Marlin in the $300s

Is the Winchester really that much better of a gun?
I have some of both and they are all made in the 1970's or earlier (some in the 1870's). The Winchesters are collectibles and the Marlins are shooters. I like the feel of the Marlins, they feel more substantial or solid but both brands made good rifles. I am not familiar with the new ones.
 
I am anouther one that has both. The Winchester is lighter and easier to carry around. However it's trigger is like pulling a toilet plunger through a bucket of rocks. Marlin, now owned by Remington I think, is much tighter, has better metal finish, better trigger, superior stock design, better metal finish, better wood in the stock and way more accurate than the Winchester. The Winchester is priced higher because it is no longer made and collectors want them. Be practical, for the price of one used Winchester you can have 2 new Marlins, one in 30-30 and one in 357 or 44 mag.
 
Hi KY,

There's not a thing wrong with either one.

I have a 1962 M94, 32win/spl that I've taken alot of game with over the years. The 32spl has alittle more ummph than the 30-30.

My cousin took down a huge cow elk one year using a M94 30-30 with one 250yd shot to the lower jaw. (yes, purely by accident but meat in the freezer is what counts).

After using the weapon for over 40yrs, I just couldn't see putting a scope on that type of weapon. If I remember correct, Redfield in the 70's came out with a high scope mount with a top injector that would work well with the older M94's

T_Bone
 
Weaver also made a mount that bolted to the left side of the rifle and mounted the scope off to the left. They were fun. Most people do not believe it but a 30-30 is a 250 yard gun if you know what yopu are doing.
 
I bought a Winchester back in the late 70's and it was new off the shelf the action was so loose that the lever didn't always depress the safety pin. I did hunt with it that year and as soon as big game season was over I sold it and bought a Marlin.

I forgot to mention while hunting A lot of old timers and I was comparing the two different 30-30's and one made back in the 50's and 60, were still solid in the action but they had to use a pistol scope on theirs because of the top ejection.

If I were to buy another 30-30 it would be a bolt action because you can use a boat tail bullet in them.
 
The price of the Model 94 is high only because they aren't making new ones. And should FN decide to start making the 94 again (just like they did with the Model 70), the value of used 94s will drop like a rock.

American Rifleman had a review of a new lever action rifle from Mossberg this month. In typical AR fashion, it spoke in glowing terms of this gun; I wouldn't put much credence on their review. Still, you might want to look into it as retail price will probably be a bit cheaper than a Marlin.
 
Saw many 94s under 400.00 at a recent gun show.Nice clean guns.Check Gunbroker.com for gun prices.Never buy a gun during hunting season,they cost less afterward.
 
I got my Marlin new in 1970 as my HS graduation present. Still have it - wouldn't part with it - shot a bunch of deer with it. A few years ago my eyes began to change and I was looking to start using a scope. Marlin has the side eject and is drilled for a scope mount but I still thought that mounting a scope on a 30 30 was a little like putting a gold ring in a pigs nose.
I opted for a new rifle - Tikka T3 in .270
I do like the Tikka but it sure lacks that familiar, handy old feel of the Marlin.
2 days and a wakeup till the opener here. Looking forward to it.
 
I better sell mine if they are actually bringing that much !

You should be able to find a used one from $200-$300 because those gun jockeys are likely not even paying this much for them.
 
I have shot a lot of different cal rifles.
The Marlin is a more modern design and better of the two.
Question: With all the better "DEER CALIBERS" today, why if you are buying a new rifle, would you get a .30-30? They shoot like a rainbow.
Buy one .30-06 and you have everything covered.
 
love my Marlin 44 mag lever action...dad gave it to me when I was in HS and I would not part with it . never had an issue with it. Drilled aperture peep sight and short walnut saddle stock- a great brush gun
 
I've got several of each in 30-30 and a few old 32 Special caliber. Marlin lever-actions have smoother actions, that's all. Both guns are reliable and there's no difference in accuracy between the brands that I've ever noticed. Work the lever on either one and see which one you like better. In my opinion, there is no contest. Marlin is smoother, and usually easier to put a scope on if you care about that. I've got several 39As in 22 rimfire, and they are my absolute favorite 22s.

With Marlin 30-30s, I've got on Model 1936, a few Model 36s, and a few Model 336s. All have been flawless but the rifling differs a little. "Microgroove" barrels saw a few changes over time.

I also have the special set "Brace of 1000" that was limited edition pair of lever-actions - a 30-30 and a 22 with octagon barrels and engraving. They were beautiful guns, but I bought cheap after they'd been in a house that burnt down.
I suspect the metal has suffered from the special "heat treatment."

I've only got two Winchester lever-actions in 30-30, both 94s. They shoot just as well as the Marlins, but the actions have always looked sloppy and overly complicated to me - as compared to the Marlins. On the other hand, I have three pre-64 Model 70 bolt-actions, and love them.

When I lived in northern Vermont in the 70s, I got a Winchester Model 1894 Trappers Carbine with a 14" barrel. I traded my 64 Chevy truck for it - from a Canuck in Labelle Province. I later sold it for $400 and thought I'd made a killing (the truck only cost me $150). I wish I still had the gun, although the short barrel causes some legal problems.
 
Unless you are talking about a pre 1964 Winchester, go with the Marlin. It's a much better firearm. And, yes, I own examples of each.
 
The winchesters are higher now becuase they're discontinued, that's all. As for which is better- Ginger vs. Mary Ann, Ford vs Chevy, Rosie O'Donnel vs nnalert, McDonalds vs Burger King.
 
Just to add a minor point- Winchester 94 is sometimes preferred by left handed shooters, have a couple lefties among kin. Savage 170 in 30-30 was another spotty sales arm- someplaces sold a lot of them , other places stayed on shelf couple years- pump shotgun hunters getting a occasional use deer rifle tended to like them as pump rifle matched their shotgun operating drill. Wisconsin -Marlin 336 in 30-30 or .35 rem with wide view 2.5X to 4x scope very popular with deer hunters. RN
 
Our family has had both, but liked the Marlin better because of the side eject. My grandad hunted in the P.A. mountains for years and disliked the Winchester because water would get down into the action and tended to freeze up, the Marlin does not do that.
 
There is a write up in this months American rifleman about a new Mossburg 464 Lever action 30-30. Retails for about $400 or so I guess. A lot cheaper then a used Winchester.
I couldnt fathom paying $800 or so for a used Winchester. For $1000 you could buy an AR style rifle.
 
Have both. Prefer winchester. Fits my hand like a glove. Marlin little awkward. Shooter's choice. Try em out, if you can.
 
Not sure about the Marlin, but was told that Winchester is now manufactured off shore. You may want to also consider this when deciding which rifle to purchase.
 

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