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I have a neighbor that is putting his garbage out with mine so that he gets free garbage pickup at my expense. This guy never asked if he could put 3 bags a week with my garbage but he just does it. Now my wife writes a check every 3 months for $70 or so for that garbage pickup and this guy gets it for free. (my wife is pi**ed about this and is getting more Pi**ed)
--What should a nice guy (Me) do about this. This has been going on for over 6 months and I feel the need to say something or turn him into the garbage company and make him pay up, I dont want an enemy for a neighbor, (I know who it is too cause I have seen him do it) This neighbor and I dont talk much and we tolerate each other up to a point.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
 
Don't know how to advise you, but it is for sure against the law in most places.

It's called "Theft Of Services".

Up to you as to how you want to handle it. :>(

Allan
 
Don't know what state you live in or what the law there is but, in my state this is controlled by the DEP(Dept. of Enviromental Protection). If you can find one piece of paper with his name on it in the trash or get a picture of him doing it,He's in deep trouble ,in our state it is called illegal dumping and has very stiff fines and even jail time. All we have to do is call the game warden.
 
You could ask him to pitch in for part of the cost, and see what happens. If you make the neighbor mad, what will he do? Sometimes you've got to put up with the little stuff, because you'll have more problems if you don't. Its not right, but that's just the way it is sometimes.
 
I live on a Easement with one other neighbor. We had words several years back and we have never talked since. It is a hard way to live. If I you I would a little garbage slide to keep the peace.
 
Sounds like a legal issue. If you know about it and fail to report it, or worse yet, if you asked him to pay you (which you haven't I understand), but either way you could be considered an aider and abetter or even a conspirator with him and his crime.

Proper course of action would be to report to the garbage company that there is more trash out at the curb than what you put out. What else you tell them is up to you. Snitch on him or play dumb and let the garbage company investigate. Around here the garbage company is run by the county and they try to stay on top of billing everyone except sometimes renters move around. Not sure if yours is a private or public company. I'd be more concerned if it is a public company but either one could still be considered a crime. The cops place a higher priority on theft from the gov and they could say it is a civil matter with a private hauler.

Or you could be neighborly, and tell your neighbor that you don't want to get in trouble for him putting his trash out with yours. And that you don't want to get him in trouble with the law either, but if he does it again his legal bill defending criminal charges and conviction may be more than it is worth.

Either way, you have to protect yourself.
 
If he is a good friend, talk to him and make the expectation he split the cost of get his own. If he isnt a friend he is a shyster. Get proof he is doing it and turn him in and let him learn a lesson in life.
 
Just place a tag on your garbage bags/cans with your address. Then let the collecion company know the concern with a phone call. Their dispatcher and driver will cooperate for obvious financial reasons. This will result in the "neighbor" having deposited trash on your property. I would drag it over their property line the first time, then call the sherif if the problem is repeated. JimN
 
How about putting your garbage out. Then wait untill he puts his out beside yours. Then move both yours and his in front of his house and let the garbage company (1) pick it up and bill him, or (2) let it lay in front of his house till next pickup day and you move your original trash back to your property (leaving his).

Either way, I bet the neighbor would get the message bob f.
 
When I moved out to where I live now ( about 9 yrs. now )neighbor said to go ahead and put my garbage out with his as he was allowed 3 cans worth and he barely filled one. So I set my can out there too. Didn't take long for the garbage man to raise a fuss as the cans were different colors. So I just use the neighbors extra can that matches and ever year after tax time I go over and give him a check for 1/2 of it.

So tell your neighbor to pay 1/2 or pay the whole thing !
 
Tell him you won't participate in the illegal activity anymore and that he needs to figure out something else with his garbage.Pretty simple.
 
I like to be silent around my neighbours.
I just say hi and thats it.
I would leave a sign on cardboard or something and see if they got the hint.
Something like "Frankiees garbage only" or something like that.
I dont think I could fault the person if they have not been told.
I know it is likely known to the person but once told then they cant say "I didnt know" or " you should have told me" etc.
If they flip over a simple sign showing your wishes on your property then you dont want to know them anyway and it is a good thing you found out about the way thier mind works.
 
I'd think it was worth a conversation. That can be uncomfortable, but I've always found it's always easier if you leave yourself a way out, just in case you've made a bad assumption.

In my town we have to buy stickers for each container we put out. Makes no difference if it's a bag or a 35 gallon can. The truck is the old style setup, one guy drivin' one guy loadin'. My neighbor across and a smidge up the road piles his with mine so the truck only has to stop once. I know he's payin' his share 'cause he puts his own stickers on.

Just leave yourself enough wiggle room if you decide to talk to him to learn that he might in fact be payin, but is just tryin' to do the driver(s) a favor.
 
Simple solution: Call the garbage company and ask them if you can let your neighbor put his garbage with yours for pickup. When they tell you "no way", tell your neighbor that you have been told by the garbage company to quit letting your neighbor add his garbage to yours. No hard feelings then.
 
Can`t get away with that around here. Every resident is billed every 3 months whether they use the service or not.
We have 2 pick-ups a week. 4 containers allowed per pick-up. Sometimes lucky if I have a plastic grocery bag at most to put out. Sometimes my 32 gallon can has only one tiny bag in the bottom. It still gets put out for pick-up.
I have seen the guys on the truck look into the can and not bother to empty it because of the small amount. Called the hauler and complained about it. They sent the truck back to pick up my little bag of trash. This happened a few times, and the pick-up guys learned not to play those games. If I am forced to pay the fees, the workers are going to earn their beans.

John in York Pa.
 
GOOD GRIEF, After reading the responses below i can understand why this world is a mess. only a couple of sensible answers then nothing but garbage talking about garbage. I don't understand you people not wanting to know your neighbor nor the trick playing you suggest. If you can't take care of it man to man then go stand in front of a mirror - tell yourself your man enough to handle this and go help a neighbor out. Maybe thats the bill that breaks the camels back - maybe not, maybe he doesn't even know he has to pay it. but good grief just be a man and a neighbor and talk to him about it. Someday you may need his help and then what you gonna do??? GROW UP
 
It would not suprise me if that neighbor thinks that you have unlimited trash pickup. May want to just let him know that you are at your trash pickup limit and every time he sets stuff out there you have to pay extra. If you still have problems then thats a different story.
 
I couldn't agree more dde,

Our society is in a sad state when:

A) We have to ask for advice on how to handle a situation like this and........

B) We have answers as some have posted in this thread that advocate everything BUT speaking to the neighbor, man to man, in a courteous manner about the situation at hand..........

..........and to think, people are worried about how the election or economy will tun out????
 
That'd do the trick, too! It definitely needs to be discussed, and it sounds as if Mrs. Semi ain't in the mood for any guff.
 
If you are good friends I'd mention to him over a beer or two that you are uncomfortable with him leaving his trash with yours. If not, then be straight up and tell him to quit. Then again I'm not very good at beating around the bush, to my own detriment sometimes.
aul
 
It could be worse. I keep my can across the street where my cousin and a tennant live because it is a good place to keep it. One can is for me, one is for cousin and tennant. I pull it out to the curb and my cousin pulls it in after pickup. Do you think the tennant would ever pull them to the curb or take them in, no. The problem is that the tennant only takes out the trash once a month even though they produce a lot of trash. On the night before pickup if they need to put some in my can, no big deal. What they do is fill BOTH cans like an hour AFTER pickup and leave them at the curb so I have no place for my trash for the entire week. They know when pickup is and still screw up.
 
Call your garbage guy the day before pickup, and tell him not to stop that day and why. After your neighbor brings over his 3 bags of garbage and leaves, then you carry his 3 bags and yours over to his place and leave them. When he gets back and finds 6 bags of garbage and says something, you remind him that the deal that the two of you had worked out was that you'd pay to have the garbage picked up for the first 6 months, he the second six months and that its now the second six months...his turn. When he asks what deal and when did the two of you work that out, say "The one that had me paying for your garbage collection for the past six months". He'll either get it right then and there, or he'll be dumb enough to say there was no deal, to which you'll respond that you can't afford to keep paying for his garbage removal, he'll have to get his own service. If he don't get it then...don't matter how nice you'd like to be with your neighbors, aint going to work out.

Now let me ask you a question. You aint the neighbor getting the freebie off of the other guy for the past six months and just got cut off, are you? Cause if that's the case, I've got another idea where you sue the guy under "Eminent Trashmain", and when all is said and done, you'll own the guy's property, he'll have to buy you a new tractor, and some other stuff before we get done with him...just joking.

Mark
 
If you don't want to talk to him, find some where else to go with your trash and have your service cancled for a month. If you don't put your trash out he will find some where else to go with his. The county here has places where you can dump your trash for free, just have to haul it there. I bought a little trailer made out of an old Datsun pick up for $50 and keep it behind the barn. Toss trash in it and pull it 8 miles every 3 or 4 weeks. Its pretty cheap that way.

Good luck.

Dave
 
I would tell you garbage man to stop pick up ,for a cupple of weeks ,then have the local ordance codes guy fix him for LITTERING, { bet he has papers with his name in them ]. all so take photos of him putting these bags on your side of the street.
 

With you silence you are a party to a fraud against the trash company. You pay the fee to pick up trash from one household, but you knowingly let them pick up trash from two households while you keep quiet about it. If you ask him to share your expenses you compund your participation of this fraud.

Why care if you make him angry? He's a thief.
 
It is But don't you know tractor people have common problems that need taken care of just as well? and all input is needed.
 
Do you know for sure that he's not paying? He might be trying to make it easier for the garbage truck, so they don't have to stop twice. How would you know if you never talk to him?Phone the garbage company and ask them if he's paying. If he isn't, ask the garbage company to talk to him or what you should do. Maybe use a different color garbage bag or something? It would still be best to talk to him. If he gets defensive, find out if he is violating a bylaw or something. If you've seen him do it and didn't say anything, you're just as much to blame if he's kept doing it. Dave
 
What kind of a person are you that you wont talk with your neighbor about a garbage deal but spill your guts out on a tractor forum. Just wondering
 
Well, I value the wise comments made on this site and I thought that I could get a better answer from this site then I could come up with. The best one is sending my wife over to chew his b^tt out. That is the best comment of all, And my wife can be real witchy too, if she wants to be. I thought of calling the garbage comp and seeing if he pays already but I doubt he does, I would like to see if he wants to pay half since the bag maximum limit is not reached each week.
 
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