Wheat After Corn?

I am thinking about planting a few acres of wheat after corn harvest. A windstorm broke off about 30% of the stalks, so I'm worried about volunteer corn coming up next spring. Will this be a problem? Do I need to get RR wheat seed so if it's a problem I can spray with roundup and kill it?
Here is the rest of my silly idea. I read an article several years ago, and want to try it. Plant wheat normally. In late April or May, get a fertilizer buggy and use it to broadcast soybeans seed in the wheat. The beans will start to grow, but being shaded by the wheat, they won't get very tall. When combining the wheat, leave the chopper on the combine and cut just above the tops of the beans. When the wheat is cut, beans get the sunlight and take off. Too far north to plant beans after wheat normally, would like to see if it works. I have no need for straw, or a place to store it. Any thoughts? Chris

I live in southern Illinois( St. louis area) and wheat after corn is down fairly regularly here. Back in the 70s I remember 1 farmer had a plane broadcast soybeans in a wheat field. He didn't have a very good stand of beans, but the farmer with the field next to it ended up with a good crop of beans he never planted. Moral don't do this on a windy day.

We had a few guys that tried that 35 years ago. One other version was sow the beans with an airplane. Also one year when I still in high school our ag teacher had a field of beans he wanted to get wheat in and it was wet and getting late so the wheat was sown with an airplane. First time I saw them sow seed with an airplane.

What herbicides did you use on the corn? I've seen some sporadic wheat stands because of the carry-over. I've also seen beans seeded into standing wheat with a plane; worked to a certain extent, but never really caught on.

I have seen barley after corn in south-west Ohio. It did't have the color for a long time that other had I think b/c of herbicide carry over. Also if you broadcast beans into wheat the biggest factor will be timing. If you do it too early the beans will grow up like spindly weeds.

Ryan

Would help to know where you are located.

I have planted winter wheat after beans and then beans after the wheat (double cropped) as late as 17 July here in SE Iowa. Double cropped beans made 28 bushels.

Super 99 must be up north if you say sowing wheat in april or may is "normal" down here we have soft red winter wheat and sow it in sept or october. Also, is there a such thing a roundup ready wheat? dont know, might be.

There is a company that has seed that is coated with a plastic or polymer type seed coating. It can be had with different "time release" coatings. It will set there and not germinate until the right soil temps, or period of time is reached. Cant remember the name of the outfit.


Gene

Where will you find rr-wheat??????? Has not been released/approved!

Up here in the north, wheat can be hurt with the fungus & other disease that grew on the corn stalk - both are grasses, share some disease. Fall plow the cornstalks under, a black field (will make tree-huggers & no-tillers cringe....) carries less disease into the spring.

I plant oats into disked cornstalks in spring, that works well - just got 93bu oats off a field, and there was turnips, alfalfa, clover, & peas planted with it so that ground got a lot of roots pulling off it! Neighbor offered me a buck a bale for the straw, he did all the baling. Cattle will enjoy grazing the regrowth into November. So doing fun stuff and extra crops can be rewarding. Just be careful of wheat after corn, there can be a disease problem up here.

Some corn herbicides are longer lasting & hurt wheat seedlings. Know what you did and what will work on this.

Double cropping up north gets interesting. The combine will run down a lot of the beans, dry times in July/August will hurt you as the wheat pulled allt he moisture out. Could be a fun experiment, go for it for fun, but don't be planning on spending your bean income too early.


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Although personally haven't done it in many years, wheat after corn wasn't the best plan unless you plowed. Therefore agree with what Paul wrote, but perhaps with the abundant dose of the newer fungicides it will work OK. If you a good soaking rain after the soys are spread, it can work. Just pray that you don't have bad weather resulting in a bunch of lodged wheat.

This summer in western Kansas we harvested a circle of irrigated wheat no-tilled into cornstalks after harvest last fall. Didn't do well at all but there were some negative weather factors, like a very cool spring. I don't know what the fertilizer program was, but this land is farmed by a very good producer. Yield was 60-70 when it should have been over 100. Jim

Not sure where you are geographically but we always plant wheat or rye after corn. I cant say about the bean idea, we chop the wheat for silage and go back to corn. Try to plant by May 10 but a lot of times its the first of June, its silage corn though, and that still puts us done chopping corn by the end of Sept.

Not sure where you are geographically but we always plant wheat or rye after corn. I cant say about the bean idea, we chop the wheat for silage and go back to corn. Try to plant by May 10 but a lot of times its the first of June, its silage corn though, and that still puts us done chopping corn by the end of Sept.

Several years ago, the fellow who rents our farm land had the entire farm planted in corn. Just to break the rotation cycle from corn/beans/corn/beans and give the ground a rest, during the fall corn harvest he followed the combine with a no-till drill and drilled the entire farm into wheat.

It worked. He got 70 bushel wheat, and let the land lay fallow until the following spring. (This is in eastern Nebraska).

Wheat and corn are both members of the grass family and suffer the same diseases. I would not risk it ,myself. Talk to an agronomist before spending your money or go here and ask. There are several experts at that site.Do yourself a favor and ask there.

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What I left out, Sorry about that. I live in western Ill, Just south of I 80. It's in corn this year, Preemerge with generic Lasso-Atrazine, and follow up with Liberty. My thought was to harvest corn, disk 2 times and drill wheat in the fall. Overseed the beans in the spring. I have some bean acres that I could try it on, but a lot easier to get to the cornstalks than the bean field. Thought I had read about RR wheat, but I must be mistaken. Corn is about 30% broke off and leaning, so I was concerned about volunteer corn coming up next spring. Lots of beans went in late this year,might as well have been double crop. We will see what happens to them.Thought about seeding with a airplane, might be better. Thanks, I will let you know if I try it. Chris