2nd gun question ot post

thanks for all the help i got off this board on wich gun to buy have decided on the ruger 357 and just about decided on the rifle 270 or 243 remington leaning toward the 270. for knock down power witch one again thanks to all who gave me input
 
Hold it now i never got in on the discusssion . Have you ever shot a rifle. My mom shot her first caribou back in 65 or so . took her 4 shots LOL non the less the recoil is the big thing. If you 've shot before then the 270 is okay. You could trade the 243 and not lose a dollar if you did decide you wanted a 270. My advice go shoot a couple of different rifles. You want a gun your not afraid of. Example i dislike 12 gauges to much kick. 20 gauge sweet i shoot 4 time as well with my 870 20 gauge compared to any 12 gauge.
Just some thoughts.

Take Care

Farmer
 
have and own many guns that my dad left me when he passed want to buy somthing of my own to pass down to my grandkids later when they are old enough to use and understand what they have

have never shot a 270 or a 273 have shot 308 and 30 06
 
I'll bet that one of your friend have a 243 to shoot. Seriously shoot them that 270 is sweet like a 30 06 . But a 243 is like a 20 year old virg oops kind got off subject.. LOL Back to seriously if you are going to teach your kids to shoot definitely a 243 get a nice light load for them. Hell here's a thought get one of each ya one of each why didn't i think of that. !!!!!!
Then you will have one each of the best !!!

LOL Farmer
 

I tend to agree that you should really shoot both guns (on a couple different occasions and hopefully different guns). My 270 is a downright deer murdering device but it takes some getting used to. It is very picky about being in exactly the right place in my shoulder pocket. Now it is second nature but she paid me a price for awhile. I wouldn't want to wish her on a kid. First impressions are really a big thing. Especially when you start dealing in high horsepower. Scope placement is also a thing. Better have it perfect or she'll bleed ya.

I think a 243 will have a little flatter trajectory and be faster too so it might be the way to go....
Course there is really something to say about passing guns down through generations. You can tell stories about them that you were told then your kids will tell to their kids.
 
That makes it easy. I 243 is 308 brass, necked down to take a .243" or 6mm bullet. A 270 is 30-06 brass necked down to .27". Both are "related" to the military rounds, just played around with some.

If you have shot a 06 and 308 (asuming you shot them out of normal weight bolt guns, not somthing like a Browning 1919) you have an idea of what the difference is between a 243 and 270.
Good luck.
Dave
 
Your question is very easy to answer. Get a .270.

You can load a .270 down to .243 capacity but you cannot increase the power of a .243 anymore than it is designed for. To simplify, a .270 can be made to perform as a .243 but the converse is not true. And the recoil is generally a non factor. When you are hunting you generally only take a shot or two and you would have on heavier clothing, thus the recoil would be minimized. And since you are focusing on the game animal at hand, your senses are distracted, so to speak.
 
270 has more 'knock down' power as you say but really, either one will do a good job on a deer at 200 yards if the shot is on target. I own both and have actually shot more deer with the 243. I really like it better if I am filling a doe tag. I tend to choose the 270 if I am after a buck. But either one will do the job.
 
If you're thinking of shooting anything larger than whitetail deer, then go with the .270. .243 is marginal on deer and unsuitable for larger game. But the .270 is overkill for varmints, so .243 is a better choice for smaller game.

Personally, I like the .280 Remington over the .270, mainly due to wider choice of bullets. But the .270 is popular for good reason, as is .243.
 
Without a doubt the 270. It is a much better rifle for deer hunting than the 243 which in my opinon is a bit on the small side. The 270 will have substantially more knockdown power.
 


The loading spes listed below are right out of the "Lyman Reloading hand book".

.243 100gr jacketed sp [heaviest shown]
velocity.2869 ft pr second.


.270 150gr jacketed sp
velocity .2755 fps


.30/06 170gr hpbt
veloocity 2808 fps


7 mm Rem Mag 150gr sp
velocity 2900 fps


All the cals listed above had heavyer and lighter loads listed , but the 243- 100gr was the limit listed in the the loading bible.


I picked weights that were right in the middle[ bullet], so you could load lighter and heavyer depending on the game.

I have hunted with the .270 and found it to be a very flat shooting gun.

I hunt with a 7mm Rem Mag and hunt all sizes of game from the mountains of Virgina to the flat farm lands of Michigan.
Dolar for dolar it is a great all around gun that puts game down quick and with very little meat loss.


Hope some facts help you choose that next toy!!!

P.M me if you want more info from the book.

Jim
 
I have owned at least one of each cal. you all have talked about, but what I have been hunting with for years is a 25/06 and would not change for the world. Thanks Les
 
In the part of NY I live in no rifles allowed for deer, shotguns only. That may change as the powers that be realized that a hunter with a rifle is far more likely to kill with one well placed shot than to hurl multiple deer slugs in the general direction of a deer. That said I've read that in thick country a .44 mag carbine is good medicine on deer. Anyone try that?
 

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