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Allan in NE

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Just sittin' here wonderin':

Why in the heck should it cost $75 to fill an old M with fuel?

That wasn't the worst of it.

Wife comes home from the grocery store yesterday and says that razor blades are now $2.13 APIECE?! $17 for a package of 8 ??!!

Think we're maybe gettin' raped, fellas?

Oh well, it's gonna be light out soon and I gotta go put up some hay. :>)

Allan

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I know just what your talkin about . Just a few yrs. ago you could buy a bale of hay cheaper than ya can bale one of your own these days . Ya cant even think of goin to town if ya dont have a couple a hundred in your pocket !!
 
Look in the white house,you'll find the answer. Not that it matters,it's too late. So many people were easily brainwashed,lied to,and mislead.
 
hey allan, i hear ya, loudly, is there any way to make a video of that m and the 2 rakes workin? just wanted to watch 'em
 
No look in YOUR house,MY house and every other house in the US.We stopped producing products the rest of the world wanted but kept buying (alot on credit) the stuff we wanted and now the
bills are coming due.Sort of like a real long Christmas shopping season and now its Jan. So to get out of the jam the Fed Gov't is printing money which means inflation.Where do you think all this 'bailout' $$$ comes from? Those that were responsible will be punished right along with those that bought what they couldn't afford and can't pay back thats the way economics work.If you want to place blame put it on the guy that bought more house than he could afford to pay for or the guy that ran up credit card debt living like he made $50,000/year when he was making $40,000.
 
But I'm not in that boat. I'm standing on the outside looking in on the big picture,and have been for years. I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying. I'm pointing out one BIG factor of how high the price of everything jumped over the last 8 years. All due to the hike of oil. If you can't see that,.............????????????
 
Those of us who live within our means, pay our bills, etc. get to bail out the ones who don't. My employer/boss had close to $70,000 on credit cards and owed the IRS $300,000 in back taxes. Government and credit card company settled for lots less. Who makes up the difference? You and me. He has two new cars with the bank calling daily about past due payments and he still spends like there's no tomorrow. I'm glad to have a job, but why is this guy still in busness?

Larry in Michigan
 
Larry, best be looking for a new opportunity.... This guy won't be around after a while. Niether will your job.
 
Sure but what has made oil go up? Consumption and alot of it to run large SUV's and heat/cool
huge houses that are now being left to the repo man or worse the gov't steps in prints some money and saves the guy that bought a house bigger than his wallet.The result is inflation which will continue until there are some high interest rates put in place to discourage hyper-consumption.The guy that is really taking it on the chin is the fellow that spent prudently and saved some cash in the bank,he's now drawing a couple percent interest but his money is worth about 10% every year.
 
Hey Allan, I know what your talking about, my 4430 holds over 50 gallons of diesel, do the math on that! Makes me sick! I'm really wondering these days how long its going to take the country to go completely down?
I read the posts on here about what is happening and why, this is my opinion, we have an oil man in the white house! fuel prices didn't start going out of control till he got in there. It don't take a rocket sceintist to figure it out. You can talk all you want to about economics and pull out all your college trained talk and all but bottom line is we are being bent over and raped by oil companies, opec, traders on wall street, speculators and anyone else in those areas who are reaping mega profits.
Mega profits to the oil companies kinda is a give away in my book. If oil is costing them so much and all, then in my opinion the profit margin shouldn't be so much higher.
I do think we all need to send EXXON/MOBIL's CEO a McDonalds gift card so he will at least be able to eat. I would hate to see him go hungry.
 
uh, college educated here :D
Yeah, if the profit margins were so tight then why are the oil barons making record profits? Supply and demand accounts for some of it, greed and speculation account for some..

Same with the pharmy corps....dad and mom, hard working farmers for 50 plus years, should have had enough for a decent retirement...meds ate it all up.

And the pharmy boys say the drugs are expensive due to developmental costs, r&d, etc..but try to buy their stocks...pretty pricey.
 
I live in the northeast, and I'm afraid there is going to be some awful cold people this winter!. The price of home heating fuel has climbed totally out of sight. The goverment is going to have to come up with far more fuel assistance money than ever this winter for all the people who can't afford to heat their homes. There has been assistance money shortages in past years, where is all this money going to come from?. Not heating homes is really not an option, both for the people's sake, and for the home.
 
Gotts run this morning so just a quick 2 cents. Its the dollar that is to blame for a lot of it.
Pickens did not say it out loud, but please-NO MORE POWER GENERATOR PLANTS WITH GAS POWER. Save the petro stuff for the road. Use wind , coal and atomic.
Gotts go to K-mart for coffee--they will close this store soon.
Kenny
 
GW has done alot of bad stuff like let all the pork laden and tax increasing bills sail on through without a VETO !

I remember hearing something about Bill Clinton being on the board for the UAE who are the fat cat oil barrons.

Aren't any of them worth a darn and the 2 main canidates this year are terrible !

How did we get into this mess ?
 
I'm with you, Eric. We can pizz and moan about fuel prices but it won't help.

Allan, how about some video? Better yet, how much would you have to charge to let a couple of us come out and run that rig?
 
Nice old M!!! Does yours like allot of fuel?? My Dad's seem too, but sure had power when you needed it. His had an M & W kit, would pull 3 14s so fast you could'nt stay on the seat!!
 
M's were made when tractor gas was about 20 cents. They never sipped only gulped some where around 4 gal an hour. Same with JD 70 under full pull easy 4 gallons per hour.
 
You know I wish there was something I could say to help this.There is nothin left to say.I just stay sort of mad all the time.I think its a good lesson to youger people about what"nnalert"are really like,but in a way its not fair because these are the same crooks that LBJ was,a nnalert.None of these people in government is going to represent us any more.Big money is the problem.These people are like trained monkeys or animals of some kind and will say what you want to hear,turn around and do everything in thier power to ruin us,for a fat paycheck in a Swiss bank account from warmongers in other countries that are in it with them.
The animal thats the real problem is evil.Evil doesnt win according to some books,but the cost of the war over it is staggeringly high.I guess if the war is between good and evil,its more like supernatural,and for right now,good is behind.I wish good will hurry up,and now that we know,theres no sense in listening to the excuses any more.Its time to get done with these people,there is no other choice.I think the line has been drawn,and either you are on the good side,or the alternative.Since thats the side that looses,I dont get being on that side?I am poor though,so I guess if I was rich it would make a difference maybe,but to be whats really rich compared to these hogs,is almost unbelievable.I think there is a lot of injustice being done,and our country stood up before,and will again,and will be what we want it to be,free.Other people and countries are not so brave,or have the guts to do what we have,and if it werent for us there would be lots more problems,and more hurting people than there are now.Just the beating our reputation is taking in the last 50 years is a lot to overcome,and the warmongers have always been there ready to take over any way they could.We get dumber from time to time and the warmongers get control.The thing to do this time might be everybody vote for a third party candidate,that might change it a little.
 
I get a little upset when I hear how stupid our kids are buying more than they can afford if things get bad. Times are bad now and we all point fingers. Our government is going to step in and help the kids out no doubt----or will the actualy help out the bankers? My question to all of us is this. What would have happened if rough times would have smaked us in the butt? Not the rough times we thought we were going through. Yea we all lived beyond our means, and guess what ---that is why we own alot of property, big houses, and have money for vacations, and money in the bank for retirement. I have none of the above, but we lived in good times, and we still have the cohonas to say it was all hard work and good managment. Inflation made us money because we bought the next farm when we figured we could afford it. Yea well, how many of us paid cash? We borrowed money, and as long as things kept up the pace we were ok. Yet if all heck would have broken loose we would be just as bad off as these young kids are now.

I have kids as also, and I just shake my head, but they are trying to get ahead with their --if you will--INVESTMENTS---like dads house that has increased in value every year, why wouldn't theirs? Almost everything dad bought made him a profit so why should theirs be any different?
Grandpa lost the farm, not because he was a poor manager, and did not work hard---poor timing was grandpas problem, just like we are headed for now.
Anyone buy a 4020 new, and traded it in for more than they paid? What about the old M's ? They are almost worth what you paid new for them. GOOD MANAGMENT ???? OR luck?

I'm not a DEM, but even I have to admit I kinda see why our gas prices are up. No one can be trusted in the white house, and I don't discriminate against any party--they all put their pants on two legs at a time. (actualy they squeeezzzzzzz into them with the lobby beasts)

Now let me ask if the whole economy breaks in half as it kinda looks like could happen,---what will happen if we want to sell our homes for our rest home bills etc. and our homes have no buyers? We may be up that famous creek with everyone else.

Who is to blame? Well you are for crying out loud-----Never let any politician get a second term and we could break Washington, and make the house white again.
 
Over 20 bucks to fill the jug for my LAWNMOWER!!! Talked to a guy the other day, he said he doesn't buy lawnmower gas any more, because the cost makes him so mad- just siphons it out of his pickup as needed, doesn't seem to bite as much that way. I just came in from my weekly Monday morning sojourn to Safeway for my salad stuff for lunches- tomatoes $3.69 a lb., stupid SQUASH, of all things, buck sixty nine- remember when they couldn't give them away at 2 bits a lb.? Blueberries, $8.99 for less than a lb. in a plastic container!!! BTW, I sprung for the tomatoes, but looks like I won't be eating blueberries until my bushes ripen. Things ain't lookin' good, boys. . .
 
This is one reason i do not intend to have a credit card. Saves money too. If i managed to ride sevral miles by bike to town without money for it, it means i do not need it
 
You can buy a lawnmower with ears and a short tail for $15 these days , and he or she will keep it trimmed all year and get rid of the weeds.
 
Boy everybody is blaming some one else for the problems.
I just saw something on the TV, it said that 63% of all oil in the ocean comes from natural seepage not what we do, the next biggest polluter is the boating crowd and only 1% from off shore oil rigs. Tell that to environmentalist and see what he/she has to say.
"Well that's natural pollution it won't hurt anything."
We could let the government do everything for us take over all the big companies, dole out what profit there is to us little guys.
Come to think of it didn't Russia try that for 70 years.
Walt
 
I forgot Allen my Old Case LA takes 30 gallons of gas and burns 5 an hour, it sat all summer waiting for someone to use it who has more money than I.
Walt
 
Uh, I'm college educated, too, but I think you're missing a couple of points.

1) Supply and demand does account for some of it. 2)Greed and speculation (read "young hotshots sitting at commodities desks in investment banks vieing for career advancement on the basis of their trades") accounts for more. 3) You left out the weak dollar, with all its causes, which only exacerbates the effects of 1 and 2.

Don't leave out the green and NIMBY factors. Those, to me are the most exasperating. How many soccer families run big SUVs, but like to think that at their core they are environmentally responsible (worse yet, couldn't imagine being seen as anything else!), and so support cleaner fuel while opposing the building or expansion of refineries? My observation says, "A lot of them."

1) Refinery capacity -- few if any new refineries in this country in years, and severe obstacles to any plan to expand capacity in esisting facilities. 2) For years we've heard about loss of capacity attributed to shutdowns for conversion from summer to winter blends of gasoline. We now face the same issues on #1 and #2 as refineries adjust to the new ULSD which, quite apart from it's effect on road diesel, has effected the pricing of off-road diesel and home heating oil.

'Nuff said for me. Outta here.
 

Agree to all you've said. Was gonna give the top of the causes but felt it would just cause a ruckus.

:twisted: So what the heck....two words....iraq conflict. :wink:
 
I for one am planning a garden for next year, raising a calf to butcher, maybe a hog and chickens and trying to get back to old time basics. something has got to be done as gas prices are going to kill all of us. Funny how alot of people don't associate high gas prices and the prices of everything else. Gas goes up so will everything else and look at where we are now. We are in some serious trouble and something has got to be done.
 
Bought a 1# mater at a local farmstand for $4.

Dogs counter surfed and ate it overnight.

My first 'mater should be ready in a couple days.
 
Um, let's see:

George W. Bush: Stagnant economy, inflation, record gas prices, no shortage of gas, prime interest rates in low single digits.

Jimmy Carter: Stagnant economy, inflation, record gas prices, gas lines and rationing, prime interest rates pushing 18%.

Can't say it's what the nnalert are all about, since we where a bit worse off under Carter (so far, anyway).

A lot of the deregulation has helped to prevent it from being as painful as the 1970s.

Obviously, in some areas the regulations did get far too slack. When you had 40 year, interest only mortgages being written someone should've been the traffic cop saying he doesn't care your Corvette can do 155mph, you're not allowed to be that stupid. But returning the big government days of 1970s style regulations would be make the illness worse.
 
Yep,

That's what I use too. Told the wife I wanted just a simple SINGLE BLADED razor.

Can't even buy 'em anymore. :>(

Allan
 
Salmon runs in our creek peaked in the late '50's, when our cows forded the creek at a shallow spot, and always stopped to relieve themselves during the crossing. No cows in the creek anymore- and no salmon, either.
 
The nnalert pushed those damned 40 year, zero down, subprime mortgages. The nnalert have consistantly and constantly lowered the amount of domestic oil production since the early '70's, and many are still trying to.

I'm no trying to slam that party, just stating the facts.
 
Weak dollar-Bush's fault.

How many soccer families run big SUVs-their business, safer, hauls more, gas was reasonable when they purchased them a couple of years ago.

Refinery capacity-Never been to a station that didn't have fuel. Wouldn't somebody be out of fuel?

I think the war cost too much and was unnecessary.

I think the mortgage crisis might be insurmountable. There should be a long conga line of mortgage crooks sent to prison.

I think the fuel shortage and price hikes are contrived and thievery.
 
Look,when I read"deregulation"it made me mad.Its a scam.There are a few things our billions of dollars we spend on taxes should actually pay for,then the crooks want to deregulate it,jack up the price,and steal more.Sometimes its better off if you dont say anything if all you are going to do is repeat a bunch of lies.70s style regulations?All "big government"has done is this,they shifted the tax burden from big money to you,and along with it,do very little for the taxes we pay them,except steal them.Its really about that simple,and they still have young folks fighting wars for them.Carter vs Bush,you are kidding right?Niether was worth anything,but Carter did not do the damage Bush has.Carter was Right Wing and thought he was doing right,so is Bush,maybe.Whats that say?One is a warmonger,and the other is just dumb.I cant see much of a comparison.High interest rates,hmmm,looks as if the President will be a nnalert,I suppose the high interest this bunch causes will be the nnalert fault?Carter was too dumb to fix the interest rates caused by Nixon.Now dont go crazy on me,but explain just what the heck you are talking about?Heres how it is,nnalert(this includes Bill Clinton,and yes even Jimmy Carter to an extent since they are both Southern Governors)typically help the big money people,not the workers.With the loss of unions,manufacturing,dumbing down the population,deregulation,stealing taxes,loss of family farms,loss of small business,loss of small towns.Loss of nearly our country,and you want to argue about how good nnalert are?JFK was the last nnalert,and the last President.The rest were big money puppets.Some were worse than others,this one being the worst.The problem is,you just have not seen yet how bad this one messed things up.In a year from now you will cuss him louder than me.
 
Im going to go out on a limb here and really dont know if what you say is actually true or not,but I think that people that sell houses pushed the subprime mortages.They could have been nnalert or nnalert,either one,but their business was to sell houses.Predatory lenders.Somehow I think they were more criminal than political,or just too dumb to know any better.Not that nnalert are much if any better,just I dont think they are responsible for this scam either.This might actually have required knowing something,and I dont think politicians fit in that category.Could be wrong as always.
 
Well theres a couple of things wrong with what you say.Printing money is not going to get the guy that lost his house back in it,its going to bail out the bank that sells it again for about 20% of what it did the first time,and that will probably go lower.Also,house notes are nearly all interest the first years.Nothing is paid on the actual debt really,its just bank stealing.You can try and make sense out of the oil deal,but the truth is this,speculators did it,and are still doing it,and as long as you believe that other stuff which is lies and propaganda,the speculators are getting away with it.High interest rates ruin the economy,then stupid politicians have a halucination and claim to find a way out of high interest rates,and after stealing from you,steal as much as the market will bear.Interest is mostly criminal,and not for the good of anything except the thieves.Paper pushers dont need 20% or even 5% of your hard earned dollars for anything,except robbery.Its enslavement,but sneaky.Devalue the dollar,then charge you 10%,but its really 20% because of the devalued currency.Nothing wrong with being prudent,but the prudent person is living in a world thats root hog or die,and its hard for the prudent type to keep up.
 
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