Chinese chainsaw

Tony S. · Sep 20, 2023

Anybody had experience with the cheap Chinese chainsaws from Amazon? Gas powered, I mean. Yes, I know all about you get what you pay for, but I'm almost done doing firewood. Bad back, etc. Hate to spend a ton of money on a Stihl that won't get much use.

BarnyardEngineering · Sep 20, 2023

From what I've seen Amazon is hit and miss. There's some okay stuff and some real junk.

The ones that are well liked are the Holzfforma saws at farmertec DOT com. They're clones of older Stihl and Husky designs. The real popular one is the Husky 372XP clone, which they make several. They also have Stihl and Echo clones in their lineup.

They won't have the longevity or quite the performance of the originals but they're a fraction of the price and as you said you won't need it to last decades.

Echo might be a brand to look at for "genuine" saws for less than the other orange brands.

wilson ind · Sep 20, 2023

battery eletri

steve_in_mo · Sep 20, 2023

Around here you can get a very nice used Stihl at a couple of different pawn shops for the price of an Asian clone.
They will even warrant it for a brief time, not forever.
I'd buy the Stihl because I like them. Do you have someone to give it to after you quit sawing wood?

onefarmer · Sep 20, 2023

I did some research on power to weight when I got my Stihl 026. It had among the most power per pound in it's size range. I got it in 1990 and it's still going. Never had it apart only a few carb diaphragms. Several bars I put a 20 bar on so I wouldn't need to bend over to much. My big saw is a 044 I love it but it gets heavy quick so I just bury it in a log let the weight do the job.

If I was looking for another one I'd get a good used 026. Or look into it's clone for a new one
Holzforma 026

Geo-TH,In · Sep 20, 2023

I put a 3500 watt generator in my truck and cut these logs with a 4 hp 120v craftsman chainsaw.
My 120 v chainsaw will keep up with a small gas chainsaw and starts every push in the switch.

I use a 20v dewalt for smaller jobs.

I use this 20v black and decker for things up to 4 inches. I carry this on in my truck.

Both cordless come in handy.

The black and decker alligator has to be the safest 8 inch chainsaw.

My boss has used one for years, not a scratch.

Ultradog MN · Sep 20, 2023

How long are you going to live?
If just a couple of years buy the China job.
If you hope to go longer buy a respectable brand.

UncleTom · Sep 20, 2023

I know you-tube saw builders that have worked on those china saws and the cranks arent hardend correctly and the list goes on.

pcsaw · Sep 20, 2023

Be careful wife bought one for me and when it came had about 6inches of chain saw chain with a handle on each end good thing she used pay pal and got her money back

Tony S. · Sep 20, 2023

I've never seen a big electric chainsaw. We have a 14. Pretty good for small stuff. But I've got some very large trees. Are there any bigger electrics?

4play · Sep 21, 2023

I bought one several years ago, It's a little red 25cc 12" top handle . I really only needed it for a major ice storm cleanup but it still runs great and it's my go-to saw now for small jobs. I always run it hard and it has decent power. It is cheap, it looks cheap, feels cheap, but nothing has broken and it's still in one piece. The bar and chains didn't last long (no surprise), that is the only thing I've had to do.

When I first started it, it would barely run, and I adjusted the super easy mixture screws and it's been perfect. A couple days later I found out why the mixtures were off. The manual specs 25:1 ratio, that's crazy, 40:1 is enough for any small engine if using a high quality 2-stroke oil. Maybe the Chinese are still dumping whatever "oil" they have laying around.

This saw has had nothing but 75:1 SABER oil.

Geo-TH,In · Sep 21, 2023

Found on Amazon

Oregon CS1500 18-inch 15 Amp Self-Sharpening Corded Electric Chainsaw, with Integrated Self-Sharpening System (PowerSharp), 2-Year Warranty, 120V
Visit the Oregon Store
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$114.00

showcrop · Sep 21, 2023

I saw a little article a few days ago telling about cordless saws being a good buy. DEWALT 20V MAX 12in. Brushless Battery Powered Chainsaw, Tool Only
$159.00
Home Depot

Texasmark · Sep 21, 2023

I have a Stihl but decided to buy a $100 of what you said from ebay since it was lighter for use in trimming limbs once the tree is on the ground. Have had it a couple of years now and I really like it. Starts easy and cuts fast.

I use premium gas in all my small engines. Just start faster and run better. OH, was surfing cars the other day and one of the major mfgrs. of cars had the specs out on one of their models and listed performance numbers for regular unleaded and premium unleaded......there was a difference in performance numbers......so for the boo birds out there, you aren't wasting your money burning something above the minimum recommended octane. Besides I don't like having to pull the rope and premium cuts down on the number of whacks.

dhermesc · Sep 21, 2023

I would say its hit and miss on Chinese stuff. You say the cranks' are not hardened correctly - the next batch might be perfect - kind of like buying cars in the 80s and earlier. Monday and Friday cars were base models and suffered high failure rates - pay day was Thursday and Friday cars were built with half the line hung over - same for Monday cars.

In China they are not cottage industry but demands by the government (and army) greatly affect quality as they may demand cost cuts that can't be achieved without affecting quality. Given how much is exported - it will be months if a year before these defects show up - in another country.

guido · Sep 21, 2023

Tony,

This is what I have, may not quite 14 inches. Will go through a 12 inch log is seconds. Less the 11 lbs.

showcrop · Sep 21, 2023

(quoted from post at 05:56:14 09/21/23) I have a Stihl but decided to buy a $100 of what you said from ebay since it was lighter for use in trimming limbs once the tree is on the ground. Have had it a couple of years now and I really like it. Starts easy and cuts fast.

I use premium gas in all my small engines. Just OH, was surfing cars the other day and one of the major mfgrs. of cars had the specs out on one of their models and listed performance numbers for regular unleaded and premium unleaded......there was a difference in performance numbers......so for the boo birds out there, you aren't wasting your money burning something above the minimum recommended octane. Besides I don't like having to pull the rope and premium cuts down on the number of whacks.

Premium burns slower and has fewer BTUs in it than regular. It is for high compression engines that would knock on regular. Engines that use premium make more power due to high compression not due to premium gas. Knock will blow holes in piston lands. Purchasing premium for small engines because you think they run better will actually do nothing other than blowing a hole in your wallet.

guido · Sep 22, 2023

showcrop,

The one I posted is 40 volts. I cut
some logs that are at least 2 years
old on a pole.

It sure surprised me. No it's not
for cutting cordwood, but for sure
does a decent job cutting

Guido.

olddavid · Sep 22, 2023

(quoted from post at 20:51:18 09/20/23) I've never seen a big electric chainsaw. We have a 14. Pretty good for small stuff. But I've got some very large trees. Are there any bigger electrics?

I have a 40 volt battery powered WEN with 16 inch bar. I don't know if it could be upgraded to a longer bar but it's a standard Oregon bar and an Oregon chain will work on it (might invalidate any warranty). It's great for occasional use. The beauty is you no longer have to worry about mixing the fuel and keeping the fuel fresh. No more arm aching from cranking it to get it started. No more breathing smoke and fumes and it's much quieter. I bought two batteries but rarely if ever have used the 2nd one as I usually wear out before the battery dies.

BarnyardEngineering · Sep 22, 2023

(quoted from post at 15:37:30 09/21/23)

(quoted from post at 05:56:14 09/21/23) I have a Stihl but decided to buy a $100 of what you said from ebay since it was lighter for use in trimming limbs once the tree is on the ground. Have had it a couple of years now and I really like it. Starts easy and cuts fast.

I use premium gas in all my small engines. Just OH, was surfing cars the other day and one of the major mfgrs. of cars had the specs out on one of their models and listed performance numbers for regular unleaded and premium unleaded......there was a difference in performance numbers......so for the boo birds out there, you aren't wasting your money burning something above the minimum recommended octane. Besides I don't like having to pull the rope and premium cuts down on the number of whacks.

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Premium burns slower and has fewer BTUs in it than regular. It is for high compression engines that would knock on regular. Engines that use premium make more power due to high compression not due to premium gas. Knock will blow holes in piston lands. Purchasing premium for small engines because you think they run better will actually do nothing other than blowing a hole in your wallet.

Agreed. If you want to blow a hole in your wallet for chainsaw fuel AND have it count for something, buy the premixed stuff. It doesn't go bad. Ever. You can put your saw down in November and not pick it up again until next August and it will still run like a top.

Yes it's expensive but you can cut a LOT of wood with a 70cc saw on a gallon of the stuff. I only go through 2-3 gallons a year.

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