FORD 6600 I can not get this thing out, any tips?

UrbannGuerilla · Sep 13, 2023

The 6600 has about half a turn of play in the steering wheel. Its a LOT. All the ball joints are sloppy from the connection at the Pittman all the way to the tie rods -none of them had that "bushing" in between them. The ball joints are wallered out, they're sloppy. We are in the process of replacing the tie rods & steering arm, one of the ball joints is stuck in the center piece both tie rods connect to. Cant get this thing out. I was picking peas yesterday all day, so I wasn't there at the tractor, but my father and brother apparently tried everything they could, and could not get this thing to come out. I heard them doing some beating and banging, and my father said he even tried to heat up the center pc w/ a torch to get it to let loose, and was not successful. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

This post was edited by UrbannGuerilla on 09/13/2023 at 01:22 pm.

DoubleO7 · Sep 13, 2023

(reply to post at 13:24:08 09/13/23)

Looks like you have welded the nut to a washer to get the nut off?
And was that successful?
Also looks like you have torched off most of the joint on the other side?
Do you have a magnetic induction bolt heater? Some tool rental places have them.

Or run the nut all the way onto the threaded stud but not pulling it into the hole it is in, then heat it red hot with a torch.
As soon as cool enough to not burn away PB Blaster, drench it until cooled off.
Then hit the nut and stud end with an air chisel. If you can get a floor jack on the nut/stud and lift the tractor off the ground a hair while air chiseling it might help too.

Janicholson · Sep 13, 2023

Use two hammers, a 6 to8# sledge, and a 2 pound ball peen. Hold the sledge as a backer on the arm, and hit the opposite side hard with the smaller hammer. This slightly deforms the arn and breaks the connection ton then taper. 15 to 20 whacks are not uncommon. Jim

sotxbill · Sep 13, 2023

Its been a long time, but I seem to remember putting a bottle jack and piece of steel under the stud, and jacking it up.. just a bit.. then heating, and then hitting sides with hammers and it popped loose, but thats been a long time ago. Brain fog is involved also.

paul · Sep 14, 2023

Air chisel hammer has made jobs like that a lot more fun.

Paul

BarnyardEngineering · Sep 14, 2023

(quoted from post at 22:21:31 09/13/23) Air chisel hammer has made jobs like that a lot more fun.

X2.

So many times I've whaled away on something with a big hammer to no effect. Hit it with the "burp gun" and it rattles right out. Latest was the rim bolts in a cast hub. Hammer wouldn't budge them. Air chisel with a blunt tip on it, and they came shooting out.

UrbannGuerilla · Sep 20, 2023

(quoted from post at 05:43:21 09/14/23)

(quoted from post at 22:21:31 09/13/23) Air chisel hammer has made jobs like that a lot more fun.

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X2.

So many times I've whaled away on something with a big hammer to no effect. Hit it with the "burp gun" and it rattles right out. Latest was the rim bolts in a cast hub. Hammer wouldn't budge them. Air chisel with a blunt tip on it, and they came shooting out.

(quoted from post at 22:21:31 09/13/23) Air chisel hammer has made jobs like that a lot more fun.

Paul

UPDATE:
I followed the suggestion of air hammer. Bought an Ingersoll Rand 115. 5000 bpm, short stroke (not the expensive ones that are $200+, its about $70 ). Hit the ball joint from the top radiator side twice w/ the air hammer (a total of about 3-4 seconds vibrating), and IT FELL RIGHT OUT. They beat and heated on this thing for over 3+ hours last week trying to get this thing out. 3-4 seconds of vibration- DONE, I couldn't help but laugh. It kind of sounds like you're holding a miniature A10 Warthog in your hands. Thanks for this great suggestion, this tool is definitely going to come in handy in the future.

BarnyardEngineering · Sep 20, 2023

Those things are amazing. I have a "Chief" brand hammer from Harbor Freight.

UrbannGuerilla · Sep 22, 2023

(quoted from post at 06:37:47 09/20/23) Those things are amazing. I have a "Chief" brand hammer from Harbor Freight.

We're having an issue getting the steering arm ball joint to come out of the center steering piece both tie rods connect to. Its been air hammered so the end of the bolt is starting to deform and don't want to keep pushing it until it mushrooms too large to get out. Does anyone know how this center steering arm comes off? This pin (what the hex head bolt is screwed into) has to come out somehow. We took a bolt out of the bottom that cinches the housing around this pin like a battery cable connecter does, but we can't get this pin out. We know it can't come up because the arm is over it, it has to slide out after removing the center pin, right? In the meantime I ordered a case of blaster until I figure out how to get this done.

This post was edited by UrbannGuerilla on 09/22/2023 at 10:31 am.

Destroked 450 · Sep 22, 2023

That pin with the bolt in it pulls straight up out of the steer arm
There are bushings in the top and bottom castings
The big washer that was on top kept the pin from dropping down to far and misaligning the grease hole in the pin that lubes the top bushing

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