Question about skid loader tires

Does anyone know if beads set the same way on skid loader tires as they do with other tires? Should there be a pop when airing them up?

It has been a long time since I changed a skid tire but as I recall yes they set the same way but dont recall if they pop or not.

No they don't pop because 16.5" rims have a very tapered bead area unlike regular 16" rims.

I guess that helps explain my curiosity.

Just had 2 tires aired up at the tire shop. He slobbered a whole ton of lube on, then used his machine to manipulate the air leaks gone so air pressure could take over. Problem is, two days later when I went to mount on the loader, the soft soil gave way and the loader slid a little. Next thing I know I'm looking at the pic below. The whole rim is so slippery I can barely grab hold of it. Don't really want to take it to the same place, but the guy charged $20 per tire to fix them -- but they're not fixed. He never checked for leaks.

This place used to be THE place to go to for tire repair around here. Now? I doubt I'd want to take them trash tires. So was just wanting to learn a little more about skid loader tires and how they mount. When the loader slid, there was no whoosh of air, no pop (or un-pop? *lol), nothing. It was like there was no air in the tire. Which since he never checked for leaks, might just be. Anyway I had to work harder to lift the loader up from ground level. That meant digging down for the hydraulic jacks, which did nothing to help stabilize the soil!

Sorry, forgot to add the pic.

If you want to continue using those tires as tubeless, then you
will need some bead sealer. It is nasty hard to clean off
wheels, but it works well. Anymore I just stick a tube in mine.

Just got some X-tra Seal delivered today. Only thing is, I think I would have to take the wheels in to have the tires taken off, clean the rims good, then have them put the tires back on using the sealer. Not sure my little air compressor will be enough. Might have to dig out my portable air tank...and maybe every other tank I can find! *lol*

Have never used bead sealer before. Any tips I should know?

Take them tires back and tell them u want the job done
properly ! They were leaking most likely or he did not
have enough air in them. Tires just dont become
unseated due to turning. Not ur fault its his fault. I would
not be ignoring that tire shop ! Plus it has to be a no
charge deal this time !!

Thought about that. But we don't normally go that direction. Is 40 minute drive each way, plus having to deal with him (this guy wasn't the most pleasant guy in the world! *lol*). It's just $20. No, we're not rich, but I'd say it's a cheap lesson learned.

The worst thing he did was to slobber so much lubricant everywhere. That's gonna be a headache to clean up. ...Keep in mind, this guy is used to working on BIG tires -- for tractors and combines. My little pipsqueak tires almost wouldn't fit on his tire machine! :shock:

Oh, and he [i:824119e976]did[/i:824119e976] air it up. Don't know what he went to initially, but he let the air out to 50psi. The other tire is still at 50psi on the nose, so that $20 is money well spent. The other $20....I'm just gonna eat it this time, and never use their tire services again! I'll show them. They just lost one whole customer! *ROFL* :roll:

I have concerns about the X-tra Seal bonding with all that tire lubricant. I need to figure out what to clean it with. Not sure if it's petroleum jelly or what, but he grabs the stuff by big handfuls. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the problem, that all the excessive lubricant helped the bead to come loose. But I don't know for sure.

Pretty sure u are correct. You do not use that much on
the stuff. Usually its Murphy soap. Just enough to get
the bead to seat. I had a similar thing happen also when
the blow came to install new tires on my tractor. He was
slopping it all over the rim inside with big hand fulls. I
said what are u doing? Ooh thats so the rim dont rust.
Imagine when stuff gets hard and some has to change
the tube its going to be stuck in there. Now I avoid that
guy like the plague. When he is behind the counter I ask
for the manager. If he is not in I turn around and walk
out.

Different answer use a 16 inch thorn proof bicycle tire over the rim and against the tire bead to get the bead started,

That's a great idea! ...Well, if you happen to have bicycle tubes. But why thorn proof?

Just watched a video where I guy was slobbering Murphy's Soap all over an implement tire. Yup, that's the stuff. Now that I know what it is, I can find out what cleans it off!

The lubricant is not the problem as much as probably a bead leak or low air pressure. I use the same murphys soap to seat beads by filling the crack around the tire and rim on both sides then put air to it .I hav even put it on as the air is going in. I also wipe off what I can while the bead is coming up after it is sealed. The soap does not get hard and can be washed off with water. IT is water soluble, as that stuff you see then wipe on to seat beads at the tire machine for your cars is the same stuff. If you are going to use a bead sealer I would break one bead at a time to clean up apply then air back up to seat bead the do other side less problem with getting the bead to seat each time. I would also think they should fix this problem at no charge since it has not been on long. IF not then I would see manager or just never use them again. IT could also be just the attitude of the tire guy and not the company. Bead sealer just wipe your rim lip and tire bead clean apply the sealer and inflate.

Sounds like he used euro lube I use it all the time never had an issue. I doubt it was the lube unless he used dawn dish washing soap that I would never use on a tire bead.

My thoughts it leaked down and broke the bead it was not the lube. It just caught you in a bad place : ( Those tires are a bear an experienced tire man makes it look like there is nuttin to it my hats off to'em I will pay $20 just to watch'em perform the magic.

As mtf and cat guy posted the problem is not the lube it is the rims are too rusty to seal so you slowly lost pressure.

If it is a standard 16 inch or other inch
size they should pop. If they are 16.5 or
any other .5 size, they have 15 degree
taper on the bead so they won't pop like
you are used to hearing.

Guess that would explain it then. They're 16.5's.

Thanks for the heads-up!!