can i fix this? Hydraulic steering hose leak

WI Dan · Jul 2, 2023

Good morning guys.
John Deere 6410 with a leak underneath the steering column. when I turn the wheel full to lock - fluid flows out of this joint between the hose and the metal fitting.
How can I fix this?
If I use a pliers can I just crush the metal fitting around the hose more?

SkipperII · Jul 2, 2023

Sorry, but no, it needs a new hose.

guido · Jul 2, 2023

Wi Dan,
Probably not. You can try a spilt
nut with a C clamp, you might get
lucky,

Guido.

rustred · Jul 2, 2023

answer is no. whoever made that hose didnt crimp it enough. take it to town and get another one made. if they have the same brand of
fittings might be able to give it more crimp , but not worth the hassel.

Absent Minded Farmer · Jul 2, 2023

The crimp needs to be evenly applied around the fitting, so pliers won't help. It looks like it was the wrong size to begin with.

Mike

Janicholson · Jul 2, 2023

If needing to use it soonest, you could take that end off of the threads and carefully cut the crimped part off (dremel cutoff, or die grinder or hack saw. it will need to be sliced long ways as well as around the fitting end. Cut the hose off of the barbed fitting you will find there (don't nick the barbs). use 2 or 3 hose clamps to tighten the hose onto the barbs. It is not neat, but can be effective. Jim

redforlife · Jul 2, 2023

If you took this to a hose making place,
they would want to replace the rubber with
new fittings, rather than try to fix. The
place I go to, can't hardly even be talked
into just shortening the same hose if you
have extra length on it. And it's not them
just wanting to sell you a new length of
hose. They really are just simply trying to
fix it right to begin with.

Not sure if this answers your question, but
it would for me.

wore out · Jul 2, 2023

Having a hydraulic hose leaking with the potential to blow apart in the operator's area is a serious matter.

Some years ago a local man was badly burned and ultimately died after being sprayed with hot hydraulic oil from a failed hose.

It needs to be replaced, even though there will be a $$$ cost and some serious work needed to replace it.

NO WAY are hose clamps an acceptable fix on a high pressure hydraulic line.

Hydraulic system pressure on that tractor is over 3000 psi, although the steering circuit (IIRC) is relieved at around 1850 psi.

Tony in SD · Jul 2, 2023

In one word, NO!

NDIHC · Jul 2, 2023

Absolutely not!!! New hose is required. I
used to work in a shop where we made
hydraulic hoses and that looks like either
a fitting that isn't properly crimped, as
in the wrong dies were used for the fitting
size, or the wrong fitting was installed on
the hose. As others have said it is
dangerous and potentially deadly. I
wouldn't use the tractor until it is
replaced.

1948CaseVAI · Jul 2, 2023

If it changes from a "flow" to a pressured jet of fluid it will be dangerous. Don' fool around - get a new hose.

cjunrau · Jul 2, 2023

Never understood why anyone would wait for it to blow.
More oil loss than the cost of a new hose. Never mind
loss of time when you dont have it

Fritz Maurer · Jul 2, 2023

Sure, if you could find a Anchor split clamp. You
would have to cut the ferrule off so it can hook in
the groove. Cat used them for 30 years.

caterpillar guy · Jul 2, 2023

Unfortunately it is hose time. IF you had the dies you could try a bit more crimp on it, doubt it would seal it though.

Caryc · Jul 2, 2023

I would just go with a new hose. I had a hose blow on my MF202 loader. I took it to Napa and they just made me a new one. I believe they could use the ends off your old hose. You should also check to see if there is a hydraulics shop in your area.

I found out there was a hydraulics shop in my area that I didn't even know about. I used them when I decided to modernize the whole power steering unit on my MF202 a couple years later.

Here's a hint you might try. I used that plastic ribbed cable cover stuff that is slit along it's length to cover all my hoses to keep the hot sun and rainy weather off my hoses since my tractor has to sit outside.

This post was edited by Caryc on 07/02/2023 at 02:53 pm.

WI Dan · Jul 2, 2023

thank you very much for clearly answrring what I need to do.
I will seek a new hose. -Aactually will need a couple of them ... the large hose next to it is also leaking. And crawled underneath the cab and looked- there's more hoses, connected to these, also leaking. Same place in the same place where hose goes into fitting.

Caryc · Jul 2, 2023

(quoted from post at 14:58:34 07/02/23) thank you very much for clearly answrring what I need to do.
I will seek a new hose. -Aactually will need a couple of them ... the large hose next to it is also leaking. And crawled underneath the cab and looked- there's more hoses, connected to these, also leaking. Same place in the same place where hose goes into fitting.

Hopefully you won't have to disassemble the whole tractor to get at all the hoses you need to replace. If you have to do anything on that order, I would just replace every hose on that tractor if you have the bucks to do it.

r.w.b. · Jul 3, 2023

we had a few hoses made that used that same end.all 4 blew off the
fitting. went to another place and they had better ends and crimp
too.cost tad more but wasnt tad more cause their hoses didnt blow
end off n dump lots of oil. replace all then crappy crimped hoses.
look at it this way ,in road gear blow a steering hose what you
gonna do? fix it right for others if not you

Stephen Newell · Jul 3, 2023

The question is how did it get like that. If it's a relatively new hose that was damaged and there is sufficient length you could take it to NAPA and have them cut the fitting off and put a new one on. That one probably can't be fixed.

rrlund · Jul 3, 2023

One way to fix that if the end has some special fitting, and depending on what fitting the other end uses, cut the
steel tube as close as you can to the leaking fitting, then have a new hose made with a compression fitting that
slides on the tubing.

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