Classic or AG JD paint?

jd2cyl1943

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Bemidji, MN
I was reading about the differences in the Classic and AG paints from Deere and read that there is very little difference and that some collectors prefer the AG green on their Two-Cylinders! I was wondering what the difference really was and if any of you had pics compering them. One thing I noticed was that the AG green is a lot cheaper. the Classic is $95 per gallon while AG is $70 per gallon. I don't want it to be inaccurate but saving money isn't bad either. One more thing, how much paint is needed to cover a JD B?
 
Just a thought.
If you JD needs paint, a good chance you have
rust you need to sand down and use metal
conditioners.
If that's your case, I would recommend you paint
it with primer, Rustoleum for heavy rust first.
Sometimes you can buy the Rustoleum primer for
rust in a JD green.

Let the primer sit long enough to cure. It's done
curing when you can't smell the new paint. The
longer you wait, the better and easier it is to
sand. Then block sand the rustoleum to flatten
the surface. Apply the JD paint of your choice.

I use a spray gun. A gallon plus thinners and
hardener will be more than you need. You may have
a quart left over.
Think of clear coating because gasoline may react
with paint not clear coated.

If you have a local vocational college, you may
think of taking a night class to learn how to
paint and do body work. I took a night class
decades ago..
 
Here's my take:

The classic green is has more yellow in it
than the modern green does. I vaguely
remember it being something like 2 parts
dark green and 1 part yellow mixed. If
they are next to each other is very
noticeable.

In regards to how much paint, depends on
the batch size of stuff you are painting.
If you do a bunch of small batches
(clean/prep/paint) as you go, you'll use
more due to residue in the cups, guns etc.
If you let it all and already it all at
once, you'll use less. When I did my B, I
think I used 3 quarts, but got 4. I also
mixed cans together as I went to assure
uniform color. It would be easier to get a
1 gal bucket, dump 3 qts in (after
shaking/stirring each can really well)
then mix together and put back into cans
and seal. Then you know the color will be
the same between all cans.

If you have never painted, practice on
something first (even cardboard) and I
recommend to mix the paint to the same
consistency everytime as it will take
constant gun adjustments out of the
equation.
 
Classic would be correct for 2 cylinders,
id recommend useing hardner in the paint,
it's pricey from Deere so I use PPG's
 
I do not know how super accurate it is but
martin senour paint from napa i have found
to be on the better end of somewhat
affordable paint. Some of the paint they
sell is a paint/hardner mix so it takes a
lot of the mesuring out of it. I would
also recommend a clear coat and a wax job,
that will make it real shiny and easy to
keep clean.
 
We use AG Green on all of the tractors we paint. The Classic is a little to yellow for our taste but maybe not yours. We use harder with it and not sure what
all else as Brian does the painting of them. This is a picture of my G with the AG green on it.
cvphoto155961.jpg
 
Do what you like best. Reading is a great way to acquire
knowledge, but you need to apply that knowledge. Your
tractor only looked new for a short period of time after
coming off the assembly line, then every owner after
added their own history to it, you included. I would
suggest doing the necessary prep work so whatever
color you choose lasts. Ive been following your posts,
keep up the good work. I started out disking with a 1945
B when I was 7 or 8. Thirty years later my kids enjoy it (it
has fenders from a VAC Case on it, and I wont change
them because they have been there for the thirty years I
have known it, one of those things that makes it an
original). At the end of the day its an old tractor that
worked hard for a family, great job keeping it alive to
continue its intended work, thats most important!
 
So classic is my favorite. Everything until 30 like 4430 series I
believe is thought to be when a change occurred but I havent
ever seen a definitive statement about it. So I just did my
unstyled b lawn mower and it took 4 quart containers. I do 2/3
of a quart at a time 10/2/1 paint reducer hardener seems to
work. A styled b would probably take more than a gallon of
green Id bet 6 quarts theres more tin. Two quarts yellow
should be sufficient Ill try to upload a picture with the green
done
cvphoto155982.jpg
 


For $70.00/gal it has to be WWII technology alkyd enamel. Alkyd enamel is OK if you don't care how long it lasts and are doing little prep beyond pressure washing. The next grade up is Acrylic enamel which will last much better. Either way if you want the paint to stay on you want to use epoxy primer. Follow the instructions with the primer. You will need to top coat in a short time. Don't buy paint by color buy it by what type it is.
 
(quoted from post at 12:07:22 06/06/23) So classic is my favorite. Everything until 30 like 4430 series I
believe is thought to be when a change occurred but I havent
ever seen a definitive statement about it. So I just did my
unstyled b lawn mower and it took 4 quart containers. I do 2/3
of a quart at a time 10/2/1 paint reducer hardener seems to
work. A styled b would probably take more than a gallon of
green Id bet 6 quarts theres more tin. Two quarts yellow
should be sufficient Ill try to upload a picture with the green
done
<img src=https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto155982.jpg>

I was told it was late 60's early 70's before John Deere had an "official" paint code. Before that they used different suppliers mixing green for them. My 1944 A original paint turned to a blue hue and I had a 1940 B that resembled the new "Classic green" with a higher yellow tint to it.
 
jd2cyl1943 If you use any hardener in your paint , REMEMBER do not put left over paint mixed with hardener. Back into the can of not mixed paint or it will be ruined in a short time.
A gallon of green 3 good coats and 2 to 3 coats of clear for U/V and chemical protection.2 quarts of yellow mixed with hardener ,then also clear coated.
1-2 pints of hardener ,2 quarts of clear and 1gallon of quick/fast dry thinner

This post was edited by Den N Ms on 06/09/2023 at 05:51 pm.
 
(quoted from post at 17:04:27 06/09/23) jd2cyl1943 If you use any hardener in your paint , REMEMBER do not put left over paint mixed with hardener. Back into the can of not mixed paint or it will be ruined in a short time.
A gallon of green 3 good coats and 2 to 3 coats of clear for U/V and chemical protection.2 quarts of yellow mixed with hardener ,then also clear coated.
1-2 pints of hardener ,2 quarts of clear and 1gallon of quick/fast dry thinner

This post was edited by Den N Ms on 06/09/2023 at 05:51 pm.


Sounds like a lot of hardener.
 

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