New member with questions

Hey all,

New member, a greenhorn with vintage tractors, and loaded with questions!

One pressing question is will an AC mod B pull an All Crop 40 Harvester?

I have a very nice 1938 AC mod. B with wishbone front axle. Has pto with lift. Came with a sickle bar mower and a plow. I'm looking for various equipment to farm small acreage up here in northeast Washington State. Goal is to harvest alphalfa hay which I already have and get into barley and oats.

Curious if an AC All Crop 40 would not only harvest grain, but if I could swath hay with it.

Thank you in advance to anyone who can answer these questions for me. Also, I am very much open to learning from you all.

Welcome! Yes, those combines were developed to be powered by a model B
tractor.....but I don't see how you could swath hay with it...

Ben

That All Crop 40 is a combine,it will work if its got the right speed, but a WD with a hand clutch would be the cat's meow with the hand clutch,being that would give you a live PTO, i had PTO combine's the first 20 years of farming!

B or C will run it but finding a working 40 will be the big job

I appreciate all the responses! Thanks!

Hello will welcome to YT! Not sure how much you
researched the All Crop machine or what you know
about the operation of combines. The AC combine will
do a very good job at harvesting the crops you have
mentioned. But as another poster mentioned finding
one that will reliably operate to do your harvesting year
to year will likely prove difficult. Your question about
using it to swath hay shows that you may not be 100
percent in tune with the operation and function of a
combine. Look at the video in the link at 1:45 to 2:45.
There it is showing you how the threshing cylinder
smashes and rolls the crop as it come through that
initial portion of the threshing process. This is not
something you want a hay crop to be subjected to. You
can open the gap the crop is forced through but even
at that it will still be exposed to plenty of damage.
Beside this having all the parts of the machine rattling
and clanking along not functioning as intended while
you ..swath.. your hay will place undo wear on the
machine. That is the same machine that you hope to
be reliable while you are trying to harvest your grain
crop. You already have a sickle mower you just need a
rake. Tons and tons of hay were put up to feed animals
with a sickle mower and rake before swathers became
widely used machines.
AC All Crop video

From past experience of swathing hay a combine is the last thing you want to try. they wil plug up something terrible from all the gum and stickem in the green hay.

Additional references on all crop .
Check out All Crop Harvestors site. Will de complete manuals.
Introduce yourself to Tom Y hes an excellent resource also.
Keep posting cause you have a very interesting set up.

My father-in-law had a 60 he pulled with an E3....very slowly. I think he used low first and just crawled around the field. As I recall he sold it for $200 a couple years after he spent $400 on new canvasses.

Yep, AC offered a package deal to equip a small farm and the package included a B tractor and a 40 combine. The 40 was made for the B. No way they'll cut hay though.

Yes, they were designed to use with an Allis B.
Here is one I fixed up and pulled with a Case VAC.

WD too powerfull it would tear that combine up. A CA would work as in same power range as the B. And Don't need a live PTO. Had the 60 that is the 5 foot cut version, Pulled it first with a 38 A John Deere and then a 49 B John Deere, both in second gear, Not sure how speeds compair to a WC. But did not have live pto and did not miss it. Later tried combine behind a tractor with independant PTO and after one day took that tractor off and back to the JD without live pto. Never tried that independant pto on anything except a sprayer pump, hated it. The 40 is a 40 inch cut and was designed for the AC B. But they were not designed for any green crop as your hay would be. A AC 40 would be either same age as me at 79 years or older.